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Author Topic:   Do religious ideas arise from fallacies?
Nighttrain
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Message 76 of 80 (359213)
10-27-2006 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Archer Opteryx
10-27-2006 1:23 AM


Re: Abstract & Concrete
A clear boundary between abstraction and concrete images cannot finally be set. Concrete and abstract are really matters of degree.
Obviously, AO, you`ve never thought of laying a slab, cleared the site, then mixed the materials and poured/topped the cement. :-p

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 77 of 80 (359225)
10-27-2006 4:37 AM
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10-27-2006 2:56 AM


Re: Abstract & Concrete
Nighttrain:
Obviously, AO, you`ve never thought of laying a slab, cleared the site, then mixed the materials and poured/topped the cement. :-p
Actual concrete constructs have more of an edge to them, f'shizzle.
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Archer
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Message 78 of 80 (359303)
10-27-2006 11:15 AM
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10-26-2006 8:18 PM


DominionSeraph,
Sorry to interrupt, but want to bring a Great Debate request to your attention. Details here.
Thanks
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Woodsy
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Message 79 of 80 (359776)
10-30-2006 7:14 AM
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10-27-2006 12:12 AM


Re: Double standard?
It seems to me that a difference is that people in the sciences try to eliminate fallacies. We no longer use the phlogiston theory, for example. It is the proper progression that some concepts are felt to be doubtful until they are satisfactorily confirmed or refuted. On the other hand, as far as I can see, religion goes to great lengths to perpetuate what may be ancient errors and shows little interest in rooting them out.

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Message 80 of 80 (359867)
10-30-2006 12:43 PM
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10-30-2006 7:14 AM


Re: Double standard?
I must be in a disagreeable mood. I don't see the phlogiston theory as involving any kind of fallacy. If anything, I see it as good science for its time. It was a theory that gave Priestley a direction for his research. And that research program led to the discovery of oxygen, and was perhaps foundational for modern chemistry.
It happened that the research program also gave reason to discard the phlogiston theory, in favor of something closer to modern theories of combustion. But phlogiston was a step along the way to where we are now, so I don't think it should be considered a fallacy.
That said, I do agree that there is a difference between science and religion. Science discards its mistakes, whereas religion and theology tend to build on them.

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