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Percy

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Message 23 of 329 (110100)
05-24-2004 9:01 AM

Reply to: Message 20 by Petra
05-24-2004 5:09 AM

Re: to purpledawn

Petra writes:

The only one who can truely judge a person on that, is God. Other's can judge a person too, but that has no true meaning. At least, not to me. People can think of me what they want. They cannot look into my (or anybody's) heart.

It occasionally happens here that one Christian claims Christians who hold other views are not true Christians. Would you agree this is an invalid argument?

--Percy

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Message 35 of 329 (110129)
05-24-2004 11:30 AM

Reply to: Message 32 by Buzsaw
05-24-2004 11:06 AM

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Buzsaw replying to Schraf writes:

Don't forget, Schraf, that though you hate Robertson and Falwell, they are Biblically correct on all points of yours...

It almost feels appropriate to repeat the old saw, "If the Bible told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?" Expressed more directly, just how hateful and/or anachronistic does your interpretation of a Biblical passage have to be before you'd question it? Are there no limits?

Pursuing this too far would take us off topic, but I guess we could explore whether a true Christian accepts a literally inerrant Bible.

--Percy

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Message 226 of 329 (173384)
01-03-2005 9:40 AM

Reply to: Message 225 by TheLiteralist
01-03-2005 9:20 AM

Re: A definition of sorts?

Will be willing to confess that belief to others to some degree

A true Christian's faith cannot be a private matter?

Will believe that the Bible (both testaments) is infallible

A born-again Christian who accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior but believes the Bible is not infallible is not a true Christian?

Will keep Jesus's commandments and many of the Old Testament commandments, especially the Ten Commandments

So a true Christian becomes a false Christian when he breaks a commandment? What happened to forgiveness of sins? Jesus died for our sins. If our sins cannot be forgiven then Jesus's death on the cross was in vain.

It seems to me that a true Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior and who commits himself to following the ways of the Lord. How well they follow the ways of the Lord is another matter, and I think what you're really talking about is criteria for determining the goodness of a Christian, not the authenticity. This "true Christian" stuff is just a convenient escape hatch Christians use to disavow or disassociate themselves from misbehaving or embarrassing, but true, Christians.

--Percy

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