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Author Topic:   Should wikipedia remove pictures of Muhammad
skepticfaith
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Message 7 of 38 (454100)
02-05-2008 3:26 PM


Wikeipidia is a joke
Wikipidia is nothing but a spam site.
I have doublechecked a lot of information and realized most of the 'information' on there is either misleading or plain wrong.
And if you actually add something about someone or something, many times they just delete it. Why bother allow people to add anything if they are going to be deleted anything anyway. Better would be to review everything before it is posted.
Horrible site.

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skepticfaith
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Message 19 of 38 (454228)
02-06-2008 1:18 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by nator
02-05-2008 6:10 PM


Re: Wikeipidia is a joke
What I mean by spam site - It tries to spam the search index .. Think about this I create a website that will show up when you search for *anything* . By the search engine criteria that is spamming.
That is essentially wikipedia - why should it show up on top for anything even when there is much more quality material for given website.
Regarding the main question, my answer is Yes, They SHOULD remove pictures that offend those of a mainstream religion.
Wikipedia is not a celebration of free speech - they do not allow anyone to say anything about anyone. They are very restrictive on what they allow-they have even removed content that was informative and correct.
By that standard they should definitely remove the pictures.
If you want to talk free speech - THEN ANY speech should be allowed including so called hate speech! I cant stand people who think that what they consider offensive should be censored.

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skepticfaith
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From: NY, USA
Joined: 08-29-2006


Message 20 of 38 (454229)
02-06-2008 1:28 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by skepticfaith
02-06-2008 1:18 AM


Re: Wikeipidia is spam
Search Muhammad Muslim in Google -
Why is wikipedia 2nd on google search? How are they the authority on Muslims if they choose to offend them?
My point here is a website cannot claim to be an authority on a subject if it attempts to be offensive - especially an open site like this which is clearly violating search engine rules.
Wikipedia is a spam site and like porn sites that attempt to use backdoor entry pages should be banned from the search engines.
So the issue is not freedom of speech at all but spamming the search index.

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skepticfaith
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Message 27 of 38 (454349)
02-06-2008 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Granny Magda
02-06-2008 6:04 AM


Re: Wikeipidia is a joke
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Nor is it a celebration of Islamic values.
I dont care what wikipidia is - I know it CANNOT be an authority on Muslims and Muhammad. It should not show up on top of the search engine when it is MERELY a website with definitions and articles written by people on the internet. There are other websites primarily devoted to this topic that should show up on top because they are more relevant.
They CLAIM to be an Encyclopedia, but I dispute this - (the search engines though do not). What if 100 other people decide to put up their own Wikis? WHy should this one wiki be given preference - which means essentially the opinion of the moderators on that site are of more value.
What I like to know is are they other Encyclopedia printed or otherwise that had the same problem . Why is Wiki the target here? You mean to say this 'historical interest' has never been printed before in other reference books?
At the very least they need to add information on why the pictures do offend (some or most) Muslims not just put up pictures like that.
I don't think Wiki should censor itself - If it wants to be taken seriously it needs to conduct itself (it meaning the moderators) like a true source of information not like some spam website with infinite doorway pages to its site.
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n summation, why should Wikipedia censor itself according to the diktats of Muslims?
You would think that the majority of Muslims would be able to contribute to the site , no?
I don't think that anyone can dictate to a website what content should be up.
However I would hope people have the commonsense to realize that Wiki is not a neutral site nor a legit source of information and more like a site with flame wars just like a public forum.
By the way - I do not care if I offend Muslims or anyone else for that matter, but I am trying to be neutral here.
To me a much more blatant violation of free speech is Google swaying under pressure to add an idiotic note (and somehow push the legitimate entry to #2) when you type Jew into google. The #2 entry is a 'hate' site, but it devoted entirely to that topic. Notice that wikipidia comes up first. Apparently they are the authority on both jews and muslims and somehow manage to offend muslims without offending jews (which is even easier to do actually if you think about it) .

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