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Author Topic:   Prayer, faith and healing
joshua221 
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Message 16 of 88 (58290)
09-28-2003 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Pogo
09-27-2003 3:43 PM


You are missing the Point of Christianity
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Not to mention it would also be a great witnessing tool; if I were convinced that once I believed, I would never catch a cold, have to wear contacts again, suffer from a broken bone, then I would convert this second!
You are taking the stance of one who is only seeking to better himself, one that would believe anything for the chance of a reward.
The reward God has offered us is something you need faith to see.
Healing isn't the miracle God wants us to beieve upon. Jesus Christ dying for us is what you need to believe.
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The Fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.

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DC85
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Message 17 of 88 (58405)
09-28-2003 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by joshua221
09-28-2003 11:00 AM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
see my "why do harmful mutations even happen topic" Hmmmmm Christany ,Hinduism ,buddism , Jewish ,Islam.... etc.... Darn it! I can't figure out which one will save me! Is jesus the one I really need to believe in? Hmmmmmmmm..... Why are there so many If this is the right thing to believe?
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Flamingo Chavez
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Message 18 of 88 (58420)
09-29-2003 2:38 AM
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09-28-2003 11:51 PM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
Its people like DC85 that make me almost belive some of the stuff Wittgenstein said. It seems that DC85 is outside my universe of discourse. Seriously, study up a little on Christianity before you make such brash claims. Its extremely hard for someone outside a religion to critsize it, overcomming these barriers can be hard work.
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Rei
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Message 19 of 88 (58427)
09-29-2003 3:41 AM
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09-28-2003 11:00 AM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
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The reward that god offered us is something you need faith to see.
That reminds me of these clothes I had made on commission. You see, these tailors from out of my kingdom arrived, and offered to spin gold and silver into this magical fabric....
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Pogo
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Message 20 of 88 (58592)
09-29-2003 5:09 PM
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09-28-2003 11:00 AM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
Hi, Proph!
Yes, according to Christianity, Jesus is the focus. However, this thread is regarding physical healing, and why aren't all Christians healed after they are saved.

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DC85
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Message 21 of 88 (58620)
09-29-2003 7:06 PM


sorry I went off topic.... but then again did I? Doesn't a believer in another religion also Believe in healing? It just bothers me that they can say "you need to believe in Jesus to be saved" yet they won't tell us why there religion is the right one
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Trump won 
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Message 22 of 88 (58635)
09-29-2003 9:14 PM
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09-28-2003 11:51 PM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
Why are you posing this question here? Go back to your forum.

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DC85
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Message 23 of 88 (58639)
09-29-2003 9:30 PM
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09-29-2003 9:14 PM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
this is a chain off of one of my fourms.... anyway if I post a new topic for it can you answer it without "I just have faith" that just brings things around in circles and makes 0 sense. as you are saying I believe because I Believe.

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Trump won 
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Message 24 of 88 (58641)
09-29-2003 9:38 PM
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09-29-2003 7:06 PM


quote:
sorry I went off topic.... but then again did I? Doesn't a believer in another religion also Believe in healing? It just bothers me that they can say "you need to believe in Jesus to be saved" yet they won't tell us why there religion is the right one
Oh really? Well judging that the Bible is the most accurate collection of books ever (siloam tunnel, kings, dates, times) and countless people come here and preach about christianity being the "right one" and WHY it is,you probably can't read or your trying to nullify christianity. And yes you are off topic and i shouldn't have even responded.

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Trump won 
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Message 25 of 88 (58642)
09-29-2003 9:40 PM
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09-29-2003 9:30 PM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
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this is a chain off of one of my fourms.... anyway if I post a new topic for it can you answer it without "I just have faith" that just brings things around in circles and makes 0 sense. as you are saying I believe because I Believe.
I'll certainly try.

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Maneuver
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Message 26 of 88 (58643)
09-29-2003 9:40 PM


Does this "healing" include the recent story about that autistic african - american boy who was smothered by a minister and this family members?
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Message 27 of 88 (58644)
09-29-2003 9:42 PM
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09-29-2003 3:41 AM


Re: You are missing the Point of Christianity
What exactly are you saying?????

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Trump won 
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Message 28 of 88 (58645)
09-29-2003 9:44 PM
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09-29-2003 9:40 PM


quote:
Does this "healing" include the recent story about that autistic african - american boy who was smothered by a minister and this family members?
Does your post include any sign of intelligence?

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Maneuver
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Message 29 of 88 (58647)
09-29-2003 9:59 PM


Ah, I guess you didn't hear about the story. They tried to call on god to "heal" the boy of his "demons", ended up killing him. Why didn't god step in and do something? I assume I'm in the correct topic "Prayer, faith and healing".
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Trump won 
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Message 30 of 88 (58648)
09-29-2003 10:00 PM
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09-29-2003 9:59 PM


Hmmmmmmmmm..................................................................................................................................
FREE WILL........
So now you think it was God's fault that a person was murdered?

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