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sidelined
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Message 58 of 220 (203952)
04-30-2005 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Phat
04-30-2005 2:37 AM


Phatboy
The evidence is not strictly empiracal, but it is measureable. Talk to a few hundred believers who have had experiences out of the norm and you will be impressed with their honest belief
An honest belief does not make mean the measurement is in fact reliable.People for centuries beleived that the world was composed of the four elements Earth,Air,Fire and Water.That the arguement put forth was even self consistent{as long as you did not probe to deeply}did not make the model correct and as time went by and better questions were asked we found the entire model to be lacking in veracity.
I am also curious as to just what you feel it is that you are measuring among these people?

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sidelined
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From: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Message 69 of 220 (204111)
05-01-2005 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Phat
05-01-2005 8:52 AM


Re: Why Belief?
Phatboy
Yes..I have prayed about it...but I am to a point of despair. I am at a point where not changing means bad consequences. And yet I cannot pull away from the cliff edge!
Hey Phatboy! Seriously now,who is telling you that you cannot pull back from the edge? I think you are only one step away from the change you need.Again,who is the one saying you cannot pull away? i will give you a hint. It is not Satan.
This is where the best part of you will surface my friend. It is a simple step to do but it is not easy to admit.You are your actions old boy.When you realize the depth of that responsibilty you will also have the means to change.Let go of the disease and the power you give to it and then enjoy life again.
Just remember that life is a dance.Do not send the band away before it has finished playing eh?

And since you know you cannot see yourself,
so well as by reflection, I, your glass,
will modestly discover to yourself,
that of yourself which you yet know not of

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