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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
Brad McFall
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Message 86 of 144 (450777)
01-23-2008 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lithodid-Man
12-24-2007 3:33 AM


Brad's two-cents
Simply, evos must say IN WHAT GENERATION the change occurred in. Darwin was not specific while rejecting special creation. Blaming the climate went too far. Wright asserts Fisher put in in the wrong generation. Morris is of a generation that saw past that. We still do not have this resolved two generations later, but culture and politics moved on, without us (those trying to resolve it). There were modifiers before DNA was discovered but there is little to relations without mutations and yet we can not say this much often, even.
Brad.

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Brad McFall
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Message 106 of 144 (459975)
03-11-2008 5:59 PM
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01-23-2008 8:44 PM


Re: Brad's one-cent
Ok but then what about the difference of Charles D. and F. Galton?
Gould made a big deal about Charles having said that evoLUTION is by accumulative small changes (which would be in any generation, for sure) but his cousin used the words "must" vs "may" under the concept of "transilent variation" instead.
As best I can understand Galton's polyhedron in reality it does not seem (regardless of Wright's complaint to Fisher (and Mayr's response to/about pop gen)) to require the resting on the long vs the short side (of the necessary geometry) to necessarily have to occur, in any and every generation.
Gould had quoted Galton to the words about that there is a big difference between evolution as it must proceed by small infintesimal accumulative variations and that it may so change.
Edited by Brad McFall, : wrong word; some stuff

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