What evidence is needed to change a creationist

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In this thread I want to hear what evidences it would require to disprove creationism to our EvC creationists. This is referring specifically to the theory of special creation, creation Ex Nihilo. I am thinking of this thread like those university quizzes at the beginning of the semester where the professor is polling the class to find out what they know. I want creationists to tell, in detail, what kind of evidence they would need to show them wrong, what would convince the individual.

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You'd have to prove, not theorize, the origins of the universe.

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Okay, let's assume for the sake of the argument that this cannot be proven (one way or the other), so we can assume that either it occurred naturally (method unknown) or the universe was created 13.7 billion years ago (method unknown), and thus the issue is not resolved by this test.

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Let's not assume, let's know for sure.To occur naturally, the wherewithal needed to be present and come together just for the hell of it (and at the right moment, and something intelligent to give the get-go) to see what would happen and make sure all the right stuff is present in the right formula in the right weights and measurements, for a spontaneous combustion and we would have had a big bang, naturally. (Method unknown) You probably won't see the illogic of such an event.Much less creation. Which is predisposed to claims that it requires certain unmeasurable attributes in the human mind to accept that it happened without proof ever entering the conversation. Personally, I dismiss the former as incongruous, understand the struggle it contains, and hope you fellows will find what you can reasonably accept as facts. Being of one mind, of course.

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This is a contradiction in terms sir. To come together naturally is to do so without the addition of an external agency which is what you then imply by the phrase "the wherewithal needed".

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You must have the chemicals, etc., to come together naturally, and you must have them at the right moment in proper proportion. Even the making of something from nothing, has agents to make it. I see no contradiction.