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Author Topic:   Anselm's Doctrine of Substitution
Hyroglyphx
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Message 3 of 80 (479093)
08-24-2008 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Archer Opteryx
08-08-2008 1:19 AM


Anselm not required
Instead of re-writing my submission all over again, I will simply defer to what I already wrote to you and Purple Dawn on another forum.
I submit that there is a legitimate reason why Christian theology assumes that Jesus was a sacrifice for sin. It doesn't make it true or false in actuality, but there is a biblical reason for why it is believed and honored.
Source: Dreamcatcher
"He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed." -1st Peter 2:24
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel." -John 1:29-31
"he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth...
Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering... my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors."
-Isaiah 53
"whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." - Mark 10:44-45
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price." - 1st Corinthians 6:19-20
"Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." - Matthew 26:26-28
Anselm is not required when the scriptures themselves, long before Anselm were alive, make strong allusions that Jesus was indeed a sacrifice for sin. Whether he was or not in actuality is a matter of debate. What is incontrovertible is the fact that Anselm has nothing to do with the doctrine that Jesus was an atonement for sin.
Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Edit to re-ADD my link, which someone removed

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