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Can the Christian God exist without the Bible?

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07-11-2012 7:58 AM 		Reply to: Message 51 by Phat
07-10-2012 7:22 PM

Re: God, if GOD exists...
Surely something caused Constantine to convert...legend says it was a dream.
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Surely something caused Julian, Constatine's nephew, to convert to paganism after a Christian upbringing, but the voice of God seems niether necessary nor likely.
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07-12-2012 5:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 54 by Phat
07-11-2012 11:46 AM

Re: God exists or He does not
God exists or He does not
We can honestly dare say that God is not necessary, but "likely" implies knowing...and we simply don't know.
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I was dicussing the likelihood that Julian's conversion to Paganism was due to the divine influence of Jupiter, not the likelihood of God's existence. My point was simply that you cannot use the conversion of Constantine as evidence for the existence of a deity, since there are also cases of conversion the other way, so conversion does not require any truth behind the religion.
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This topic assumes Gods existence, anyway
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The topic is 'Can the Christian God exist without the Bible'. If we're asusming God's existence for the sake of the topic then a simple 'yes' in the first post would have been sufficient.
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