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Can I ask you: if you're unconvinced that god exists, why isn't that enough to convince you that god probably doesn't exist? Scientifically I find it pretty convincing, myself.

I think Geno is saying that s/he is undecided, rather
than not convinced either way.Undecided in the sense that some arguments from both
camps make some kind of sense.I could of course be reading Geno totally wrong.

I was thinking about this the other night, and I think you have to define what God is. If we are talking about the Christian God, then I don't believe God exists. If we are talking about any possibility that there may be a god then, I think there is no way you can convincingly argue for either existence or non-existence, and since this is basically the Agnostic's view, that's where I find myself.wr/Geno

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I was thinking about this the other night, and I think you have to define what God is.

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But how can you do that when, almost by definition, God has to be outside the sphere of human understanding?

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I think there is no way you can convincingly argue for either existence or non-existence

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I used to think this. I eventually decided that it was silly. (No offense intended.) You don't have to argue for the non-existence of God, any more than you have to argue for the non-existence of Batman.I don't see Batman anywhere. You want to say he's there, give me some reason to think he might be.If you can't, I'm going to continue working under the assumption that Batman is not there.------------------
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Dan Carroll

Dan,Sorry for the long delay. I think you have to make the attempt to satisfy what "God" means to you. It may be that you define "God" as anything supernatural. It may be that, for you, "God" is the Universe and everything in it. It may also be that, as you've pointed out, "God" is outside the sphere of human understanding. Just because we can't understand God doesn't mean can't define God in some way. The problem I have with this is, you could have used this to refute the existence of bacteria until the 19th century. Didn't mean they didn't exist until then...r/Geno