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Author Topic:   Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists Apply Within
subbie
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Message 21 of 277 (497330)
02-03-2009 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by petrophysics1
02-03-2009 1:54 PM


Re: Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists/Atheists Apply Within
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I have no physical evidence, but my beliefs are the result of rational and objective conclusions based on empirical evidence. The relationship with God thing doesn’t make sense to me as I exist in a universe with spatial dimensions and time and he is in a “place” with no space and no time. He’s not in this universe or doing anything here so I have no relationship with him.
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I'm confused. The portions that I've bolded seem contradictory. If he's not in this universe or doing anything here, how can there be empirical evidence?

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 26 of 277 (497341)
02-03-2009 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by petrophysics1
02-03-2009 3:24 PM


Re: Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists/Atheists Apply Within
Ah, I see.
So, at what point in your life between age 33-34 and today did you leave this universe?

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 40 of 277 (497383)
02-04-2009 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by petrophysics1
02-03-2009 9:01 PM


Re: Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists/Atheists Apply Within
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You have assumed I have only existed for this lifetime, and have as poor a memory as you.
I'm assuming you are telling a rational narrative of your experiences. I grant you, it's a shaky assumption in this thread, but a certain level of rationality is a prerequisite to communication.
Your description of your experience is that you were raised to believe in god until 13 or 14, when you decided there wasn't a god. Then, more than 20 years later, you changed your mind.
In response to a couple of questions of mine, your rather cryptic answers suggest that you believe had experience outside this universe and have memories outside this lifetime. These are tentative conclusions I've come to from your cryptic responses and may well be in error.
Assuming that my conclusions are accurate, your narrative suggests that for a couple of decades when you didn't believe in god, you didn't have memories of your other lifetime. Curiouser and curiouser.

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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