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What do believers believe heaven or hell are like?

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Message 29 of 148 (184049)
02-09-2005 4:26 AM

Reply to: Message 23 by robinrohan
02-08-2005 5:58 PM

Re: hmmmm

Robin, have you been eating funny mushrooms lately?

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 35 of 148 (184126)
02-09-2005 2:51 PM

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02-09-2005 1:05 PM

Something interesting

robinrohan writes:

I've been trying to think of a really good philosophical topic I could introduce that you and others of your ilk, plus educated believers, would be interested in. I haven't come up with anything yet.

Actually, you have come up with something I'm interested in. You mentioned it in passing in one of your recent mushroom-induced delirious states...

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 37 of 148 (184141)
02-09-2005 3:14 PM

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02-09-2005 3:08 PM

Re: Something interesting

robinrohan writes:

And that something that you were interested in was . . .?

Wouldn't you like to guess? I'll give you a hint: it's an idea.

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Message 39 of 148 (184150)
02-09-2005 4:11 PM

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02-09-2005 3:57 PM

Re: Something interesting

robinrohan writes:

"memes through which time flows . . ."?

Bingo.

Although I'm not sure about "through which time flows". Maybe I need some mushrooms for that. But memes it is.

I've been meaning to prepare a topic proposal about it. But it's going to have to wait because I want to do some reading up on it first.

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 42 of 148 (184159)
02-09-2005 4:54 PM

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02-09-2005 4:28 PM

Re: Memes

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Didn't the concept of memes originate with that book called "The Selfish Gene," if I am not mistaken? You know that book?

Yes, I own a copy. It's been a while since I read it, so it's part of the "reading up on it" I mentioned. Also, Daniel Dennett has said some important things about it. More reading up on it.

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 44 of 148 (184161)
02-09-2005 5:01 PM

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02-09-2005 4:47 PM

Re: Memes

Thanks Brad, for the reference.

Brad McFall writes:

I have thought more about heaven and hell than memes.

It's the appropriate thing to do in this thread. But then again, 'heaven' and 'hell' are memes themselves, so you may not have been thinking about 'memes', but you have been thinking about memes. (I guess you are familiar with the so-called 'use-mention' distinction I'm applying here.)

(Apologies to schrafinator and the admins for hijacking this thread.)

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 46 of 148 (184167)
02-09-2005 5:19 PM

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02-09-2005 5:07 PM

Re: Parasomnium

robinrohan writes:

In the meantime I'm going to try to figure out what I meant by "memes through which time flows." Sounds deep to me.

Deep? I'm thinking more along the lines of 'high'.

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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