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Topic: What do believers believe heaven or hell are like?
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 3 of 148 (183320)
02-05-2005 6:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator
02-05-2005 5:53 PM
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I'm glad you started this thread. I can't wait to see some of the responses since almost all of those I've heard make heaven sound very hellish.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 14 of 148 (183808)
02-07-2005 7:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator
02-05-2005 5:53 PM
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My idea of heaven is a college with only the greatest teachers. Every day you will learn something new and will be challenged. You will never learn it all but get glimpses of what you will learn tomorrow. Hell would be just the opposite, a universe filled with WWF, reality tv, the Apprentice, Lite Beer and Ball Park Franks. It would be comfortable and non-threatening, secure yet unrelenting. It would be filled with those who find high art in a mid-80's US automobile and enjoy beer commercials. Hell will be filled with CHRISTIANs and the evangelical and every day will be Sunday, complete with football or basketball. It will be NASCAR and remakes of all the great films. It will be Burt Reynolds doing action movies, Katy Couric doing commentary on Martha Graham, Rush doing commentary on origami.
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 32 of 148 (184093)
02-09-2005 12:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 31 by jt
02-09-2005 12:19 PM
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Re: Christians going to hell?
Why is hell filled with christians,... Not christians but CHRISTIANs.
... and what is so bad about the sabbath? Not the sabbath but SUNDAY when combined with CHRISTIANs and the evangelical. My basic reasoning is based on my readings here and contact with CHRISTIANs. I believe that very few CHRISTIANs have a clue what christianity is all about. That is why I'm quite sure that the average atheist has a far higher likelyhood of ever going to heaven than any CHRISTIAN.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 96 of 148 (640839)
11-13-2011 4:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 95 by Phat
11-13-2011 4:45 PM
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Re: Heaven and Hell
Why would I not want to be challenged? Heaven will be both threatening and challenging I hope.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Is the death of a son any big deal for a Deity?
In the first century in Judea, a Jew before a Roman trial would have no choices - he would have been executed for not worshipping Jupiter and the Roman divine emperor, as were over 1 million other Jews. I suppose that you have some actual evidence to support that assertion?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Is the death of a son any big deal for a Deity?
I suppose you have some actual evidence or is this just more of your unsupported assertions?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Is the death of a son any big deal for a Deity?
Your evidence that over 1 million other Jews were killed for not worshiping Jupiter in the first century Judea. Actual court records would be acceptable.
IAJ writes: In the first century in Judea, a Jew before a Roman trial would have no choices - he would have been executed for not worshipping Jupiter and the Roman divine emperor, as were over 1 million other Jews.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 114 of 148 (640975)
11-14-2011 10:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 113 by IamJoseph
11-14-2011 10:01 PM
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Re: Is the death of a son any big deal for a Deity?
I asked for court records. I suppose you have some actual evidence? Maybe you have the numbers from the census so we have a clue how many folk were even there? Are you talking about the Jewish War? That had nothing to do with your assertion of people killed for not worshiping Jupiter, it was a punishment of a rebellion. So once again, do you have any support for your assertion?
iaj writes: In the first century in Judea, a Jew before a Roman trial would have no choices - he would have been executed for not worshipping Jupiter and the Roman divine emperor, as were over 1 million other Jews.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 120 of 148 (641008)
11-15-2011 10:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 115 by IamJoseph
11-14-2011 11:52 PM
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Re: Is the death of a son any big deal for a Deity?
Exodus has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, the population of Judea in the 1st Century, the number of Jews executed because they refused to worship Jupiter or the number of people killed during the Jewish Wars. So once again, do you have any support for your assertion or is this going to be just more of your bullshit slinging, goal post changing, tap dancing evasion, pea palming carny tricks?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: LET THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE - OR EXPOSE A LIE.
Again... what does any of that crap have to do with either the topic or supporting your assertion that over one million Jews were executed for not worshiping Jupiter? Do you ever have any evidence to support your assertions?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Topic IAJ, for once actually try to address the topic
Again... what does any of that crap have to do with the topic.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 145 of 148 (649108)
01-20-2012 2:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 138 by Phat
01-20-2012 11:44 AM
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Re: If thats all there is, my friend...
There's BIG Money in being able to "Testify, Brother" on the Christian Money Train Circuit.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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