What do believers believe heaven or hell are like?

In reality I'm not sure that you can definitively say that it is the brain that has a huge impact on behaviour. I think that quite possibly the brain is just a super computer that operates on an instinctive basis (breathing, hunger etc) and that there is something outside the physical that controls judgement and behaviour.One thing that I have found as I get older is that there is some part of me that isn't ageing the way the rest of me is. I find that when I look out at the world I'm still the same person that I was years ago and yet I am who I am today. There is in my view a part of us, that is just us, that is outside of time. I'm still the same person I was 20 or even 40 years ago. My 86 year old mother tells me that inside she is still that young mother raising her babies.Another place where I think this can be demonstrated is in our dreams. Think about the last dream you can remember. How old were you in that dream? My experience is that in my dreams I just am. I'm not any age and certainly not the age I am now.Hardly empirical evidence so you can take it for what it's worth.

That is a very good point, but I'm not totally convinced that I was wrong however.For sake of argument let's assume that I was right, and the brain itself just operates like a computer with the mind which is external to our physical nature, controlling the inputs for the things that are done by impulse.It would make some sense that if the brain malfunctions due to physical damage or some mental disease, then any inputs would be scrambled as well. It would be like flying a fly by wire airplane. You can put in an input to bank left, but a computer malfunction could cause the plane to bank right.At any rate, this is pure conjecture and I agree that you do make a very good point. One thing I obviously did badly in my post was to not make it clear that I was changing the subject. The part that you were responding to with this quote was just trying to make the point that there is an aspect of us that is outside time. I see it as evidence that there is life outside the body. This had nothing to do with the functioning of the brain.The only connection that I am suggesting is a connection between the mind and the part of us that is outside of time.

Of course you are right. What I'm suggesting is that there is a part of us outside the physical whose existance is unlikely to be proved in this life time.I do think however that there are indications of an existance that we have that is not part of our 4 dimensional world. I have already suggested the one in which we have a consciousness that appears to function outside of time. There are also vast numbers of people who have had out of body experiences. (I'm not one of them. )Science is one subject, which at least at this point, does not overlap with a totally different subject which is religion. I find both fascinating and not in the least do I believe that they are at odds with one another.