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Dr Adequate
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Message 151 of 181 (614912)
05-08-2011 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Coyote
05-08-2011 9:12 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Racist: Anyone who wins an argument with a liberal.

If racism enabled people to win arguments with liberals, this would happen much more often than is actually the case, since the right is much better supplied with racists than with valid arguments.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Buzsaw
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Message 152 of 181 (614914)
05-08-2011 10:04 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Theodoric
05-08-2011 6:41 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Theodoric writes:

I can show you endless examples of racism in the Tea Party movement. How many examples of Tea Partiers disavowing the racism can you provide?

Most who disavow racism show it by their actions rather than their words. Their actions are not racist by and large.

On the other hand, it is liberal blacks like our president, Jesse Jackson, the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, preacher Jeremiah Wright, the Southern Democrats like Senator Byrd, the Confederate South way back when: by and large, the leftist Democratic Party. {abe: who are the racists. )

Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted in context


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 153 of 181 (614915)
05-08-2011 10:22 PM
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05-08-2011 9:12 PM


Supplementary Mockery
Racist: Anyone who wins an argument with a liberal.

Hmm ...

On July 28, 2009, Glenn Beck called President Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." While Beck has reportedly lost more than 100 advertisers since he made those comments, right-wing media figures now routinely call Obama or members of his administration "racist." [...] Hannity defends Beck's statement that Obama is "a racist" During the March 9 edition of his Fox News show, Sean Hannity questioned whether Beck had said anything "over the top." [...] Limbaugh then cited a campaign video in which Obama discussed voter turnout, including among minorities and women, in 2010. Limbaugh then said, "This is the regime at its racist best."

I guess Obama must have won an argument with a liberal.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 154 of 181 (614916)
05-08-2011 10:24 PM
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05-08-2011 10:04 PM


* cracks up *
On the other hand, it is liberal blacks like our president, Jesse Jackson, the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, preacher Jeremiah Wright, the Southern Democrats like Senator Byrd, the Confederate South way back when: by and large, the leftist Democratic Party. {abe: who are the racists. )

Buzsaw, meet Coyote. Coyote, may I introduce you to Buzsaw?


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Coyote
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Message 155 of 181 (614917)
05-08-2011 10:33 PM
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05-08-2011 10:24 PM


Re: * cracks up *
Buzsaw, meet Coyote. Coyote, may I introduce you to Buzsaw?

I suggest that if you are lumping Buz and I into the same group you are not paying very close attention.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 156 of 181 (614918)
05-08-2011 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Coyote
05-08-2011 10:33 PM


Re: * cracks up *
I suggest that if you are lumping Buz and I into the same group you are not paying very close attention.

And I suggest that if you wish to know what my posts mean then reading them would be a valuable first step.


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Theodoric
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Message 157 of 181 (614919)
05-08-2011 11:00 PM
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05-08-2011 9:12 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
So nothing to add to the topic? Just right wing propaganda and a lame comment?

Maybe you could read the post and actually provide an argument to counter my argument.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
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Message 158 of 181 (614921)
05-08-2011 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Buzsaw
05-08-2011 10:04 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Most who disavow racism show it by their actions rather than their words. Their actions are not racist by and large.

Consorting with and allowing racists in your midst speaks volumes. So I gather you have no examples to show of Tea Partiers disavowing racism.

On the other hand, it is liberal blacks like our president, Jesse Jackson, the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, preacher Jeremiah Wright, the Southern Democrats like Senator Byrd, the Confederate South way back when: by and large, the leftist Democratic Party.

Please show examples.

Oh and are you equating our president with the Black Panthers (which has been disbanded since 1982)and the Nation of Islam?

Do you think Strom Thurmond was racist?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw
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Message 159 of 181 (614922)
05-08-2011 11:48 PM
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05-08-2011 10:33 PM


Re: * cracks up *
Coyote writes:

I suggest that if you are lumping Buz and I into the same group you are not paying very close attention.

Just because we can agree on some things does not lump us into any group, as Dr Adequate suggests. I don't want in your group any more than you want in mine. Likely, however, we can agree on some facts in the link etc. No?


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Buzsaw
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Message 160 of 181 (614923)
05-09-2011 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by Theodoric
05-08-2011 11:06 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Theodoric writes:


Oh and are you equating our president with the Black Panthers (which has been disbanded since 1982)and the Nation of Islam?

Do you think Strom Thurmond was racist?

Our president who chose to identify with blacks though he was only half black, attended racist Jeremiah Wright's racist church. Wright, Obama's mentor and pastor for 20 years was a good bud of racist Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam. The president had no problem sitting in a racist church for so long.

People of both parties have made some racist remarks. By and large, though, the Republican Party, beginning with the Civil War which emancipated blacks have been the primary advocates for blacks.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Theodoric
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Message 161 of 181 (614930)
05-09-2011 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Buzsaw
05-09-2011 12:08 AM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
So were the answers yes?

You do know that the Republican party of Lincoln has drastically changed to become the GOP of today. We are not discussing the Republican Party of 1864 we are discussing the present party. Even in 1860's very few in the Republican Party advocated civil rights for blacks, it was mainly an economic issue for them. You might want to do some research on the migration of the dixiecrats to the Republican Party in the 60-70's following the passage of civil rights legislation.

Also, you might want to research the civil rights acts of 1960 and who drove them through. Reaching back a little further you might want to learn about the 1948 Democratic Convention and a speech by a man named Hubert Humphrey. I am not providing any links, because it is important for people to work a little in order to overcome their ignorance.


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Message 162 of 181 (614931)
05-09-2011 8:49 AM
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05-09-2011 12:08 AM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Our president who chose to identify with blacks though he was only half black....

You are a few years older than I, Buz, and as I remember you telling it, you grew up in the United States, not on 55 Cancri d. How can you even force yourself to say something as mindcrackingly dumb as that above? Do you think our president had the choice to proclaim, in 1975 in the US, "Oh, I'm a white boy?"

What are you smoking, Buz?


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Theodoric
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Message 163 of 181 (614936)
05-09-2011 9:44 AM
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05-09-2011 12:08 AM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
Our president who chose to identify with blacks though he was only half black

The scary thing is that you have no idea how racist this comment is.
Would it have been racist for him to identify with whites because he is only 1/2 white?
Are we to require genetic tests to determine what group we are supposed to identify with? I have relatives with a gamut of percentages of white/black. How do we determine who they are supposed to identify with.

Do you listen to Glenn Beck? IS everyone that listens to him a racist?

Buz your ignorance, racism and stupidity is showing.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 164 of 181 (614939)
05-09-2011 10:04 AM
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05-09-2011 8:49 AM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
You are a few years older than I, Buz, and as I remember you telling it, you grew up in the United States, not on 55 Cancri d.

That's what he says. But has anyone seen his long form birth certificate?


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Tram law
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Message 165 of 181 (614943)
05-09-2011 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by Theodoric
05-08-2011 6:41 PM


Re: Authoritarian=Conservative? is the question
No, I wasn't and didn't, it was you who was making the claim that I was making the claim.

And I do address the issues. I have my own way of doing things and you just can't stand it.

And I have very unique points of view. People always get frustrated to no end because I do things my own way on my own time.

I know, people like you can't stand it.

And unlike you I am not an intellectual elitist who has to control the debate. I actually have more respect for people with different beliefs than you do.


So you know me personally? You know what I do or do not know? Weird?

You said they were all afraid of brown people. That's calling them racist.


You do realize that this is a debate site don't you? This is not a site to allow Tram Law to pontificate without him having to defend his arguments. If you don't like people calling you out on the crap you post, quit posting it. Or maybe you could address the issues people bring up with reasonable arguments and lay off the personal attacks. A thinker skin would help your posting a lot.

It is you who are pontificating and trying to define things. You are also being very rude to me and I don't see you treating anybody else this way. And all because I wasn't using the reply button. You continue to pester me.

I am not posting crap. These are things I believe. I always get somebody like you who can't stand my views on things and they have to do what they can to be rude and condescending to me to drive me off.

It is you who are intolerant of other people's views.


Maybe you should Google Mark Williams. I can show you endless examples of racism in the Tea Party movement. How many examples of Tea Partiers disavowing the racism can you provide?

The fact of the matter is it is you who are generalizing and I will simply not read websites like that who have to play the race card for the lemmings who can't think for themselves. Why don't you actually read their website and see their beliefs?

It's really simple:

Here you go:

http://theteaparty.net/?cdtrack_creative=e3d7dff6-fb5c-4f...

But I doubt you'll read anything about it because you're locked into your "they're all racists crap, each and every single one of the hundreds of thousands" of them.

But don't mistake this for support of racism. I do not support racism. I am against using it as a political tactic.

If you really wanted to debate you would stick with the issues rather than playing the race card. This is a very common tactic among you liberals. And you guys collectively judge and entire group of people.

Such as calling Arizona racists for the anti-illegal immigration laws.

If you want to debate, debate or discuss, and stop being so rude to me. If you want to challenge me to a formal debate, do so. But I am not likely to engage you as I am not a good formal debater.

I am not an intellectual elitist. And I have my own way of doing things. When you accept that the better off you'll be.

Edit:

And where were people like you when during the primaries Hillary's camp was constantly playing the race card against Obama?

And I hope everybody else is being entertained by our little spat.

Edited by Tram law, : No reason given.

Edited by Tram law, : No reason given.


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