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CK Member (Idle past 4118 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: each email would contain a system-generated pin number
quote: First two questions pull-down or tickbuttons for age/qualification?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1334 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
I have all of the current email - feel free to edit them out. You pull the master and then I'll remove the link. alright, i have the master excel file bookmarked, and i've removed all of the emails i've found.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1334 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
each email would contain a system-generated pin number if you can do that, that'd be cool. i have no idea about how to do that sort of thing.
First two questions pull-down or tickbuttons for age/qualification? yeah, i was thinking about asking about education, etc, anyways. so that'd solve that. we just have to trust them to answer honestly lol.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1334 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Who knows, we might even encourage some to become active members on this forum. actually, that would be really cool. however, for general safety reasons, it'd probably be better that we don't directly link the survey to evc.
This is easy to resolve by emailing this information to the keeper of the list rather than posting it here. This would also help develop a separation between the forum and the activity. Anyone looking up the data can check the list to see who is already covered. that's a good idea.
NOT BECAUSE THERE ARE ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE SCIENCE OF EVOLUTION. 400 signatures on that should not be too hard to get, especially from biologists, and would totally invalidate the postion made by DI because their statement is unqualified. pretty much. their statement is pretty vague. right now, i think, we should just stick to examining the varied intricacies of the positions their vaguary encompasses.
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Godfearingatheist Inactive Member |
Opps sorry ONLY sounds like Spamming and you didn't see the Technical
problems (with browser buggie) over at this machine FYI In the risk of sounding like on it's a "refresh" screen-refresh issue, bug. Again, At the risk of Spamming or being in violation of the TOS little patience or go fuck'em all (including yourself) This message has been edited by Godfearingatheist, 08-28-2005 05:38 PM
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1334 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
please. your pnt was rejected -- go back and work on it. this is not the place for this.
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Godfearingatheist Inactive Member |
Speaking of ARROGANT dishonesty..
Amplifcation of ancient DNA is done using standard PCR techniques, but withthe inclusion of numerous extraction and amplifcation negative controls and the use of a large number of 'amplifcation' cycles. The PCR products are analyzed differently with ancient-DNA
As to the previous point:No How are creationists seen as a contributing to the understanding of these areas of consideration What can we say, are they even trusting labs or what?!?Research too oftenly was sluffed over or given a gross over simplication? Seeing this is the case, wouldn't it boarder interpretational dishonesty ? For me to engage anyone on subjects as technical as these without first attempting to gain a better understanding (particularly when it touches on a controversial analyses) shows an disasterousness towards [the body of] data .. Laboratoire de Biologie Molculaire du Gnome Eukaryote writes: ..fossils are always contaminated (the majority of which are unknown) the use of fossil extracts as probes does not allow the testing of their hybridization properties .. In the stability of human-chimpanzee DNA hybrids. DNAs were applied on a nylon membrane and were hybridized with human and chimpanzee DNA ..as probes *******************************************************Hasn't Spammers addressed a larger subject: IMO 'It's not quite that simple ...we simply don't know enough..'"
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
You're out for awhile.
If you are allowed back in, do not try to spam your rejected PNT in other threads. Learn some manners. Learn grammar, sentence structure, punctuation and to follow directions. New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts.
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mick Member (Idle past 4976 days) Posts: 913 Joined: |
hi arachnophilia and charles,
just a couple of further points - I think the email should be signed by Charles (as he was the one who proposed it) and anybody else who makes a significant contribution to its content The email would not be spam as it would be sent to known individuals identified for a specific purpose. Legally it isn't spam. I think that a web survey with anonymity would be the only realistic way of doing it. Charles seems to know how to do this - i would also be happy to help as I've done auto-emails etc. before. On the question of spam, an assurance that email addresses on file will be destroyed after the survey is finished, etc., would probably be sensible. If the admins are not keen on getting involved I suggest Charles put together an email list of those who are interested and it's carried out off-board. But having a record here at evc of the considerations that went into carrying out such a project would actually be quite useful. For example arranging such a project in association with a public web forum would guarantee at least some level of democracy and guarantee that creationists, ID supporters etc. might criticise the content of the web survey prior to it going out. So I hope you admin folks consider that! Cheers Mick added in edit: of course, doing it privately might also prevent creationists, ID supporters etc from publicising the survey prior to going out, and generally might cause less fuss and make the survey results correspond better with reality... This message has been edited by mick, 08-28-2005 09:00 PM
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1334 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
I think the email should be signed by Charles (as he was the one who proposed it) and anybody else who makes a significant contribution to its content actually, i proposed the whole thing. not trying to steal any credit for charles -- he's organizing the data which helps alot. he's also going to handle the actual email list and the survey.
For example arranging such a project in association with a public web forum would guarantee at least some level of democracy and guarantee that creationists, ID supporters etc. might criticise the content of the web survey prior to it going out. So I hope you admin folks consider that! yes, i definitally want input from creationists and id'ers. i want this to be totally fair, and as without bias as possible.
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CK Member (Idle past 4118 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
yeah I'm the backoffice guy!
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kongstad Member (Idle past 2860 days) Posts: 175 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: |
I found a couple of emails:
(Removed later in edit) Dewey Hodges Dan Hale Graham Gutsche James Harman James Harbrecht Nolan Hertel Paul Hausgen Roland Hirsch /soren This message has been edited by kongstad, 30-Aug-2005 10:35 AM
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CK Member (Idle past 4118 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
thanks saved - you want to edit out the addresses in your post?
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kongstad Member (Idle past 2860 days) Posts: 175 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: |
Where can we see which addresses have been found?
I'm home today with a cold, so if my head clears up I could track down some more addresses later - its fun /Soren This message has been edited by kongstad, 30-Aug-2005 02:27 PM
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1395 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
http://www.cgknight.f2s.com/400list280805.xls
bookmark it. you can check to see that your findings are on the list and then delete them from posts here (so spammers can't find them)
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