"THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO

TO ALL:It's very interesting to see this forum topic go to 36 pages -- Lennart Moller's/Ron Wyatt's material about the Exodus deserves a sizable discussion, because this is the first time in human history that we have ever had physical evidence and solid proof for the route of the Exodus!My name in Jim Pinkoski and I worked with the late Ron Wyatt for 10 years, and from 1994 to 1996 I managed Ron's 1st museum that was located inside the Gatlinburg Passion Play Complex in Tennessee -- I also helped Ron publish much of his material, did 2 magazines for him that explained the S&G discovery and Ron's interpretation of the Genesis story of Creation -- so I knew Ron very well!Ron was a simple man, an amateur archaeologist -- but God likes to use the "simple" things and "simple" people of the world to periodically confound the wise -- so I was extremely pleased to see someone of Lennart Moller's professional stature come along and help us out with studying and verifying Ron's discoveries! Lennart Moller is in no way "simple" -- he works in Sweden where they award the Nobel Prizes!!Folks, you've got to remember that all this is "a work in progress" -- it's not completed, it's not finished yet, it's been going on since 1977! But all the evidence that we have accumulated over the past 25+ years has proven that more work and more serious investigation should be done on every one of Ron's discoveries!I have heard all the complaints and all the criticisms about both Ron and about the discoveries -- and I am not going to get involved in re-answering them on this forum -- all I am going to say is that if you folks want to take an honest look at the 7 major biblical archaeological discoveries that on display in our museums and see how I worked with Ron for 10 years, take a look at my website:Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim PinkoskiJust remember, I have no intention of arguing about all this -- look at the discoveries or don't, and if you disagree with it, fine -- just try to keep in mind that more answers will be forthcoming in the years ahead as more and more people see Lennart Moller's book and video, so just try to be patient and wait and see what develops!Fair enough?PS -- As you will see on my webiste, for a brief time back in 1987 I did cartoons for the late Carl Sagan! See my write up about it and my comments about Sagan's attempt to deal with "science and religion," because in some ways I agreed with him! And you can see Carl autographing one of my drawings!Page not found – Pinkoski.com

No, for me it's been cream for 15 years!For me there's PLENTY of evidence for me to believe in Ron's Exodus material! For others, it's going to be a little more difficult --Try to understand what we are up against -- God decided to "hide" these sites from mankind for thousands of years, He has done this so that people would LEAVE THEM ALONE until we get to the End of Time -- so it's going to be difficult to get everyone to "see" the discoveries for what they are -- and then there's those who just don't want to see them . . .

Do you work with the science people who design the CDs?Lennart Moller is a SCIENTIST who works where they award Nobel Prizes!

Lennart Moller is a working professional scientist, it's called "having credentials"!If you wish to think that "janitors" are in the same class as scientists who award the Nobel Prizes, go right ahead!. . . but I've never heard of a Nobel Prize for sweeping floors or cleaning toilets . . .

Asqara, you asked, "What makes a scientist a better class than a janitor"?Oh, come on now!Try having the janitor teach the scientist's class or write the scientist's book!Hey, I thought that this was going to be a fairly intelligent forum to post things on -- do you really think that your post has any merits whatsoever?For several years Ron Wyatt received criticisms because he had "no credentials" in archaeology or science -- people asked, "Where are the scientists and the PhDs who believe in these discoveries?"So now we have a legitimate scientist supporting Ron's discoveries, and now YOU want to go back to the level of getting "janitors" and "street sweepers" to give their expert opinions!Did I just fall into The Twilight Zone here??Come on, let's admit that there is also something SPECIAL about having a scientist who is in Sweden who works with scientists who AWARD NOBEL PRIZES -- or haven't you noticed that the Nobel Prizes are sort of a "special" kind of award that deals with the special achievements of science on a WORLD-WIDE basis?I think it's very unique that a scientist the caliber of Lennart Moller would spend the time and make the effort to study Ron's discoveries -- and then on top of it all, HE AGREES WITH THEM and PUBLISHED them!Sure, we want janitors to agree with us also -- but it sure helps to have a credentialed scientist supporting our work!BTW, as I mentioned it before, I worked with Ron for 10 years and managed his 1st museum -- check out my website at Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim Pinkoski -- (hey, come to think about it, I was both the curator AND "janitor" of the museum, so maybe you'll listen to my janitorial expert testifmony?)This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-01-2004 08:28 PMThis message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-01-2004 08:30 PM

jar, you say there is "no substnce" and it's all a "shell game" with Ron's discoveries? Hey, we better inform Lennart Moller about this update, because he (gasp!) actually made the mistake of publishing a 320-page university quality hardcover book with 500+ pictures of . . . oops . . . "no substance"!I managed Ron's museum, we had thousands of people come in and see the 300+ color photoboards around the walls that showed our documentation, our lab tests, and the evidence -- and it's funny, not one of those people who came to the museum walked away saying what YOU say about the material!Hey, if you were right about there being "no substance," then Moller's book would have 320 BLANK PAGES in it -- but instead there's 320 pages of solid evidence!I guess you've never seen the book, right?

jar, I guess that you're never going to be on the board of people who review the material for Nobel Prizes, because if you can't see the merits of what is in Moller's book and video, then you are being willfully blind -- but then that is what the Bible says about certain people down here at the End of Time -- they are going to be "willingly ignorant" (II Peter 3:3-9) of the plain and obvious evidence that supports the Truth of the Bible.You say there's no evidence -- Lennart Moller says there is -- I think I'll side with the guy who works with scientists who assess Nobel Prizes!

Asqara, Lennart Moller has PUBLISHED -- that is what we ask scientists to do when they have something to offer, and that is what he has done! Now everybody can see his material, both his peers and the general public!My website is a generic presentation of the discoveries, so if you want to study them "in depth" you need to go to Moller's book --But you know, it's weird -- people have complained for years about wanting "picture proof" for UFOs, Bigfoot, angels, etc., etc. -- we PROVIDE pictures of coral-covered chariot wheels, and all that you people want to say is "It's not proof"!I guess you just can't please some people!

AdminNosv, we would LOVE to have more of the chariot wheels brought up so we could study them -- as long as you understand that Moller has explained in his book that the wood of the wheels completely rots away and gets replaced by coral. Moller has already brought up a coral-covered human leg bone, and somebody has a metal rod (which used to be an axle) -- but the PROBLEM is that the Saudi government is not willing to cooperate with Christians or Jews who wish to study any discovery that happens to be on their turf!See, there's this minor little problem about "different belief systems" that keeps getting in the way of things, you know?This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-01-2004 09:28 PM

NoseyNed, by your logic then Lennart Moller should never have published his book -- you only want to discuss this only after EVERYTHING is 100% proven??That is not what the scientific method of investigation is about -- if every scientist waited until every answer was known about a discovery, how would the world of science and discovery ever progress??Sir, the evidence we now share is the evidence that will promote MORE WORK to be done on the discovery sites -- if we did it the way you want it done, then NOTHING would ever happen!

jar, if you want to focus on "lousy science," focus on how the Mt. Sinai at St. Catherine's mountain was located back in the 4th century -- it has NO physical evidence there, and NO biblical support for the route going to that mountain, and NO crossing site evidence!You may think that you know how true scientific investigation is "supposed" to happen, but sometimes things just don't happen like we would like them to happen -- but with these discoveries we have looked at the evidence, and the locations, and the biblical account, which is exactly what we are required to do!If at any time we found something that did not fit, or somehow cancelled the discovery, we would look elsewhere -- but after all this time of working with these things we feel very comfortable with what we say we have, which is the actual route of the Exodus with absolutely SOLID EVIDENCE for the crossing site and SOLID EVIDENCE for the real Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia!Which is why Lennart Moller wrote his book and made his film!

Yes, Lennart Moller works at the Karolinska Institute as a medical researcher -- but don't you think that he can have "side interests" where he can use the same degree of professionlism to investigate other things? The bottom line here about Lennart Moller is that he has A GOOD HEAD ON HIS SHOULDERS! And he brought the same degree of professionalism to his research on the Exodus as he brings to his medical work!

Gwyddyon, it's amazing to me how people can ignore our explanations for 18 years -- back in 1986 the late David Fasold brought a Molecular Frequency Generator out to the Noah's Ark site and used it to distinguish metal burried in the formation -- and people like yourself get on their high horse and keep calling it "a divining rod"! IT'S TIME TO STOP DOING SO! The machine is a legitimate machine, NOT wooden dousing/divining rods!! It works on the same principle has when you touch the rabbit ears antenna on your old TV set and the picture reception would improve -- so it is NOT a "divining rod"!! The control box is set nearby on the ground and would send out various frequencies that certain metals would resonate with, and the signal would respond when the person walked over the metal in the ground causing the METAL rods in his hands to close the circuit and be drawn to each other! And for those of you who are "scared" and "frightened" that it has the appearance of dousing, the company that makes these things at one time was planning to replace the metal wands with a GAUGE whose needles would repond!Will you people please LISTEN to our explanations? We answer these things back in the 1980s and you shut your minds and quit listening and keep regurgiating the same old tired criticisms!

Yaro, thank you for sharing the coral covered metal valves -- believe it or not, we always want to see "everything" that might pertain to our research dealing with the chariot wheels. But you need to understand that we are looking at a lot more than just chariot wheels here -- the Red Sea crossing site and Mt. Sinai in Arabia is "a package deal," it's a combination of ALL of the evidence! We have supplied the entire route, we have matched it to the Bible's exact description of the Hebrews travelling from Egypt to Mt. Sinai, we have found the ONLY logical place where there is a natural underwater land bridge that goes across an otherwise very deep body of water (the Gulf of Aqaba), and this area has coral covered formations that resemble chariot wheels -- (remember, the wood of the chariot wheels is GONE, so all we can expect ot find here is coral-shapes that resemble wheels and chariot cabs and coral-covered bones and a FEW pieces of metal) -- and then the overwhelming amount of evidence at the Jebel el Lawz site in Saudi Arabia proves that it is the real Mt. Sinai! The entire top of the mountain is BURNED BLACK (the Bible says that God descended on it in fire!), the Golden Calf Altar is there (with Egyptian petroglyphs of cows and bulls on it!), the giant Rock at Horeb is easily identifiable (a 5-story tall boulder with a split down the middle of it with obvious water erosion at its base!), and there are other altars and ancient campsites, etc. -- which perfectly match the Exodus account in the Bible!So there's a lot more to this than just the chariot wheels -- it's a combination of ALL the evidence that makes this a very good case for us having actually found the true Red Sea crossing site and the real Mt. Sinai!And again, I worked with Ron for 10 years plus I managed his 1st museum -- my website is Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim Pinkoski -- trust me, this evidence is the perfect evidence for proving that these things really happened! But you must look at ALL OF IT, not just bits and pieces.This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-02-2004 07:13 AM

Lucy, as I just explained to Yaro, you need to pay attention to ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, everything that we have provided that pertains to the crossing site AND Mt. Sinai -- because the accumulated evidence is totally convincing!How would YOU suggest that we do this work?Do you know of a better way to dive down to find things at the bottom of the Gulf of Aqaba? It seems to me that we did it pretty much the same way that people searched for the Titanic or wrecked treasure ships -- you take a boat out and start looking!!Or maybe you'd like for us to drain the entire gulf and do it that way? Or maybe to wait until the year 2067 when we have "really good" underwater exploration techiques?Sorry, we didn't feel like waiting -- so we went and did it the "old fashioned way," we scuba dived and then used an under water robotic camera!And you have problems with this??