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Author Topic:   "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO
Ron Lambert
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Message 605 of 860 (129548)
08-02-2004 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 602 by Prince Lucianus
08-02-2004 11:35 AM


Re: Problems with the evidence?
Prince, in regard to all the references to death and dead you found in the Bible, you will find that many of those passages explain what death and the state of the dead really are, which is surely something that we would all like to know. They give us hope that death is not the final end.
And if you searched further, you would find that the Bible does not teach that those who are lost will burn for eternity in the fires of "hell." There are one or two verses in Revelation that seem to say that, but when you consider the nature of the idiomatic expressions, you realize that is not really what the passages mean. On the other hand, there are a multitude of plain statements in the Bible that there is no consciousness in death, and liken death to a sleep, from which we awaken in the Resurrection. There are also plain statements that the wicked--including Satan himself--will be burned up and be eradicated from the universe, so that sin and sinners are no more. To suggest as many Christian groups do that there will always be some hidden away corner of the universe where sinners will continue to sin by blaspheming God in their endless sufferings, is to invest God with attributes that actually belong to Satan, and ignores the Bible statements that God will do away with sin and the suffering it causes completely. Note Revelation 21:4 (NJKV): "And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."
As for the carbon-14 tests to determine age, they depend upon the rate of formation of carbon-14 always being constant throughout the past. But carbon-14 is produced by cosmic rays striking nitrogen atoms in the upper atmosphere and changing them into carbon-14. Then rain brings the carbon-14 down into the lower atmosphere to be taken in by plants, and then by animals that eat the plants, etc. What if a few thousand years ago, something prevented cosmic rays from striking nitrogen atoms in the upper atmosphere? And what if before a few thousand years in the past, it did not rain? Specimens from that time would have no carbon-14 in them, not because it decayed for millions of years, but because the organism never had any to begin with. The account in Genesis talks about waters above the atmosphere--which would block cosmic rays--and also says that before the Flood, it never rained, but that the earth instead was watered by a heavy mist that arose out of the earth every morning.

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Ron Lambert
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Message 608 of 860 (129553)
08-02-2004 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 604 by JimSDA
08-02-2004 12:01 PM


Re: C14 dating...
Jim, actually some dinosaur bones have been found that were not completely fossilized. Some specimens of Tyrannosaurus Rex bones have been found that still had mummified soft tissue, including collagen fibers. There is no way such non-fossilized bone could last for more than a few thousand years. No way could bone that is not fossilized last for 65 million years. Here is a link to an interesting article in a recent issue of Creation Research Society Quarterly reporting on laboratory examination of some of these non-fossilized portions of T Rex bones:
Scanning Electron Microscope Study of Mummified Collagen Fibers in Fossil Tyrannosaurus rex Bone
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Ron Lambert
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Message 616 of 860 (129566)
08-02-2004 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by CK
08-02-2004 12:26 PM


Re: C14 dating...
Charles, Creation Research Society Quarterly is a peer-reviewed journal produced by real, actual, living, breathing scientists who are creationists. They do exist. They provide solid evidence that is documented, testable, and verifiable.
The charter of the Smithsonian Institution says that it is dedicated to promoting the theory of evolution. Should we disregard anything contained in Smithsonian publications, because of the plainly announced bias?
Or should we consider the evidence in a fair-minded and honest manner? If evidence presented by Creation scientists is to be questioned, then there is a scientifically legitimate way to do this. Ridicule and arrogant dismissal are not among those ways.

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Ron Lambert
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Message 622 of 860 (129574)
08-02-2004 1:00 PM


Ron Wyatt was not the first person to suggest that the wilderness wandering of the children of Israel might have been in the Arabian penninsula, rather than in the Sinai desert. Immanuel Velikovsky published this idea in some of his books in the 1960s. Others also have noticed the striking similarity in place names along the coast of Saudi Arabia to place names in the Bible associated with the Exodus. But Wyatt seems to have found a lot of confirming evidence, and tied everything together better than anyone else.
Look, did the Exodus occur as the Bible says? Were pharoahs' chariots buried in the Red Sea? If you believe the answer is yes, then where are the chariot wheels and associated metallic implements? If not where Wyatt says he found evidence of them, then where else do you find such relics?
This message has been edited by Ron Lambert, 08-02-2004 12:01 PM

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