"THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO

That's a neat post but I was wondering if you could document it a little better. You make many allusions but don't give us much to go on to substantiate these claims.(Oh, and you're new here, so I thought I'd point it out - if you're replying to a post, you should use the "Reply" button below the specific post, the one with the little red arrow. That makes links that make it perfectly clear who you're replying to, and help us navigate the thread. You can see such a link below this very post; it's automatic when you use the red arrow reply button.)This message has been edited by crashfrog, 07-28-2004 12:07 AM

You're welcome, but you still didn't do it right. I'm talking about the "reply" button immediately below the post you're replying to. It has a little red arrow. When you click this button instead of the white one at the bottom of the page it makes links back to the original post. The white button at the bottom of the page does not.Use the button with the red arrow. Yours, as seen by the link at the bottom of my post. You can see it again in this post.AbE: Never mind, as I've been getting caught up on the thread I see you've caught on to the red arrow thing. Good job.But it would be nice, from my spectator point of view, if you could provide more sources in your posts. You're making a lot of claims that contradict others, but it's not yet clear why I should take your word over anybody else's. Some sources would help with that.This message has been edited by crashfrog, 07-28-2004 04:33 PM

Since you've regularly detracted your opponents as "ignorant" and their positions as "rubbish", you'll pardon me if I have a hard time believing that you think these things are "general knowledge".Now, I'm not one to write somebody off right away, but you're starting to look like you're either hoping no one calls you on your assertions, or else you don't hold your audience in enough regard to believe that they should do anything but accept your word as gospel. Well, ok, why don't you start with the names and credentials of the people whose information you're relying on, or the sources from which you were able to come to these conclusions. If you yourself have done the research you could give us the journal issues and volumes in which your research appears.This message has been edited by crashfrog, 07-29-2004 12:37 AM

Yes, but they've been making at least token efforts to substantiate their claims with other sources.

Easy, Hydarnes. It's you we're talking about. You're absolutely free to challenge any claims that haven't been substantiated to your satisfaction as well.Tu quoque, however, is a fallacy. Is there some reason you're so resistant to follow the rules? Here's the rule, just for reference:

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Make your points by providing supporting evidence and/or argument. Avoid bare assertions. Because it is often not possible to tell which points will prove controversial, it is acceptable to wait until a point is challenged before supporting it.

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I'm not asking for the Moon, Hydarnes, and since I'm only observing this thread I'm not interested in taking sides.

I wasn't aware that the subject of our conversation (specifically between us) was anything but my request for additional information in order to sunstantiate your claims. Are you referring to the statement I made that others have, at times, substantiated controversial claims?Why would I retract a true statement? Again, you're free to ask them to substantiate whatever claims you demand under the rule that I mentioned. And no part of my requests have been "vehement"; I'm not an admin, Hydarnes. I'm just a guy asking for more information than you've been providing in order to substantiate claims that you've offered as true. To what degree have I attacked you as a person? To have "tactics", I would have to be a part of the debate or be arguing against your position, which I am not.I'm simply asking for more information, which as yet you have resisted supplying. I confess I find your reticence puzzling; surely if you possess the level of expertise to which you've repeatedly alluded, a wide variety of sources must be at your very fingertips. Again, I'm not an admin, Hydarnes. I have no ability here to "penalize" you for anything.I haven't asked you for anything that you're not free to ask others for, including myself. As I pointed out, tu quoque is a fallacy, and never a defense of your own actions. There's certainly no requirement that I ask others for citations on your behalf. If you're dissatisfied with the level of citation so far, why don't you correct it by raising the bar? Why do you think that I'm going to be able to read your mind and determine which claims you found controversial enough to merit substantiation?

There's nothing inconsistent about asking for substantiation of claims that I find controversial, and I hardly see how you're being "punished" by being asked to follow rules that you agreed to in the first place.

Ok, I guess we can start with the specific post I originally referred to, post 430 of yours:

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Face it, the ancient world seethed with propaganda and to pretend that there should be unadulterated records to support it is simply to ignore what we both know all too well about the literary characters of Ancient Empires and Egypt in particularthat they did everything in their power to either misrepresent, obliterate and erase everything that wasn’t favorable to them. Something that we have clearly documented.

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The well-known Amarna letters distinctly attest to something going terribly wrong with Egypt’s military might during the reign of Akhenaten.

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but strong evidence for an asiatic/Hebrew settlement in Tel-el Daba, the biblical land of Raamses or Goshen, has been recently uncovered

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Again, these are not claims that I dispute; simply claims that I felt were crucial to your rebuttal to Jar but were not, in my opinion as a reader, fully substantiated. Ok: EvC Forum: "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEOEvC Forum: "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEOEvC Forum: "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEOEvC Forum: "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEOEvC Forum: "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEOOk, that's 5 posts where assertions were supported with sources, which substantiates my claim. Doubtless one could identify many, many other posts.