"THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO

Tomorrow! it's cream for you all TOMORROW!

No, for me it's been cream for 15 years!For me there's PLENTY of evidence for me to believe in Ron's Exodus material! For others, it's going to be a little more difficult --Try to understand what we are up against -- God decided to "hide" these sites from mankind for thousands of years, He has done this so that people would LEAVE THEM ALONE until we get to the End of Time -- so it's going to be difficult to get everyone to "see" the discoveries for what they are -- and then there's those who just don't want to see them . . .

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Here we have the precise reproduction drawing versions of the parallel 18th dynasty four-spoke wheels shown above (the two right compared to the one found in Aqaba). SOURCE: (M. Healy and A. McBride) (1992) New Kingdom Egypt"--Osprey Publishing Ltd, London, England. (I’ve personally read this book)

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Notice the striking resemblance between the gold-veneered wheel found at Aqaba and this Egyptian chariot wheel:

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Yeah, notice the striking differences: See the striking differences. Like how the spokes are attachemed to the rim. Actually, the wheel in the water has none, so unlike any Egyptian example we know of.
Furthermore, your source is not exactly a high standard publication. So, I'll google now and look for some confiremd 18th dynasty chariot drawings/wheels. Well, that's it (wow, it has 4 spokes. It looks so similar to the one found underwater). It's another chariot from Tut's grave, on display in Florence. These are late 18th dynasty chariots.
All the wheels we've seen were made of bend wood, spokes were attached to the rim. All sites describe the Egyptian chariot this way.
Not one site claims that wheels were made of solid wood. Not one mentions chariot wheels made from one piece of wood (I know you don't claim that, but the one underwater definitely does.)And this piece whichredsea2
describes as being Syrian. So why it is then depicted next to a Thutmosis IV chariot is a mystery.Okay, so which wheels in this period do look like the strange wheel underwater.
Again (like a chariot x pages ago) a Mycenean one: So, apart from the drawings you give us, without any description of where they came from, you simply still can't support the wheel as being Egyptian.
Drawings in a popular magazine are simply not good enough in this respect.The only real source I have at home is The Cambridge Ancient History: Volume II, The Egytpian and Hittite empires to 1000 bc only state that Egyptian chariot wheels were strengthened by leather. I admitt, this isn't helping much.I do not disagree that Egyptians only used 4, 6 or 8 spokes. But your picture sources so far only show later chariots, none belonging to Thutmose III. I haven't seen evidence of chariots during his reign.I would still like to know which animals were used by the pharaoh, because they had no horses because of the 5th/6th plague. So the cow/horsebones can't have been theirs.Lucy

Thanks for the reply - I'm sure the believers (and even a few atheists like me) on here will be very interested to take a look at your site.

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Lennart Moller is in no way "simple" -- he works in Sweden where they award the Nobel Prizes!!
  —JimSDA

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I'm in no way simple too. I work in Holland where they invented the compact disc. Lucy

Do you work with the science people who design the CDs?Lennart Moller is a SCIENTIST who works where they award Nobel Prizes!

There is nothing inherent about living in Sweden or working as a scientist there that makes one a better scientist. What does his nationality have to do with his scientific ability?I'm sure there are "simple" janitors who sweep the halls of the actual buildings where the Nobel Prize decisions are made.

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Asgara
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Lennart Moller is a working professional scientist, it's called "having credentials"!If you wish to think that "janitors" are in the same class as scientists who award the Nobel Prizes, go right ahead!. . . but I've never heard of a Nobel Prize for sweeping floors or cleaning toilets . . .

I'm not the one equating anything....you make it seem like his credentials are better than others due to his working and living in Sweden.Oh..and what makes a scientist in a better class than a janitor?

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Asgara
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You initally tried to connect Moller with the Nobel Prize simply because of geography. When rightly called for such imputation, you try to relate what was said to comparing the Nobel Prize to sweeping floors.Like so much that has been presented about Wyatt, Moller and the video, there is no substance, only a shell game. You folk take things that are totally unrelated, such as the wheels, the glyphs and other items, and by slight of hand and misdirection, try to get the gullible to lay the cash down.You claim you have evidence, but when challenged you, buz, whatever, lys and his brother can do no more than try to distract folk while you swap the shells. It is no more than an old fashioned Medicine man show. Two hundred years ago you would have been shilling while Wyatt and Moller sell snake oil from the back of the wagon.The only question left is whether you were the cripple that suddenly walked or the blind that could see. LOL

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Asqara, you asked, "What makes a scientist a better class than a janitor"?Oh, come on now!Try having the janitor teach the scientist's class or write the scientist's book!Hey, I thought that this was going to be a fairly intelligent forum to post things on -- do you really think that your post has any merits whatsoever?For several years Ron Wyatt received criticisms because he had "no credentials" in archaeology or science -- people asked, "Where are the scientists and the PhDs who believe in these discoveries?"So now we have a legitimate scientist supporting Ron's discoveries, and now YOU want to go back to the level of getting "janitors" and "street sweepers" to give their expert opinions!Did I just fall into The Twilight Zone here??Come on, let's admit that there is also something SPECIAL about having a scientist who is in Sweden who works with scientists who AWARD NOBEL PRIZES -- or haven't you noticed that the Nobel Prizes are sort of a "special" kind of award that deals with the special achievements of science on a WORLD-WIDE basis?I think it's very unique that a scientist the caliber of Lennart Moller would spend the time and make the effort to study Ron's discoveries -- and then on top of it all, HE AGREES WITH THEM and PUBLISHED them!Sure, we want janitors to agree with us also -- but it sure helps to have a credentialed scientist supporting our work!BTW, as I mentioned it before, I worked with Ron for 10 years and managed his 1st museum -- check out my website at Pinkoski.com – Works of Jim Pinkoski -- (hey, come to think about it, I was both the curator AND "janitor" of the museum, so maybe you'll listen to my janitorial expert testifmony?)This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-01-2004 08:28 PMThis message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-01-2004 08:30 PM

jar, you say there is "no substnce" and it's all a "shell game" with Ron's discoveries? Hey, we better inform Lennart Moller about this update, because he (gasp!) actually made the mistake of publishing a 320-page university quality hardcover book with 500+ pictures of . . . oops . . . "no substance"!I managed Ron's museum, we had thousands of people come in and see the 300+ color photoboards around the walls that showed our documentation, our lab tests, and the evidence -- and it's funny, not one of those people who came to the museum walked away saying what YOU say about the material!Hey, if you were right about there being "no substance," then Moller's book would have 320 BLANK PAGES in it -- but instead there's 320 pages of solid evidence!I guess you've never seen the book, right?

I've seen the Book and the video. And there is all the substance of a Ron Popeil Slice-n-Dice infomercial.P.T. Barnum had a museum and so did Ripley. I enjoyed Ripley's museum. Thousands of people come in and see the 300+ color photoboards around the walls that showed their documentation, and the evidence and you want to guess how many people Believe It or Not?ROTFLMAO.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I never said the janitor could teach science. You implied the scientist was a better class of person. I have no problem with Moller being a scientist who supports Wyatt's claims. I do have a problem with your claim that because he happens to work at the medical university in Sweden that also happens to handle the Nobel Prize somehow makes his credentials better than other scientists'.When Moller follows scientific protocol and submits his work to peer review then I will be more inclined to listen to his opinion. So far all we have is pop-sci videos and books making claims. So now you can stop implying that I am equating the Nobel Prize with a janitorial service.I did check out your website. Maybe you could point me to the specific page where your evidence is located. All I could find was pictures of Ron standing in front of drawings and sand sculptures.

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Asgara
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jar, I guess that you're never going to be on the board of people who review the material for Nobel Prizes, because if you can't see the merits of what is in Moller's book and video, then you are being willfully blind -- but then that is what the Bible says about certain people down here at the End of Time -- they are going to be "willingly ignorant" (II Peter 3:3-9) of the plain and obvious evidence that supports the Truth of the Bible.You say there's no evidence -- Lennart Moller says there is -- I think I'll side with the guy who works with scientists who assess Nobel Prizes!