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JesuisSean
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Message 61 of 76 (625159)
07-21-2011 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by daniel1212
03-16-2004 6:32 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Picture two priests that dedicate some of their time searching for plants located within the tropical forests, plants that may have positive life saving medical uses. But while doing so, they run into a tribe of Indians. These unique people had never been discovered before. They did not speak, but instead they communicated via hand signals and facial expressions. Soon the priests learnt the language and then asked the people why they did not communicate verbally.

They then said that they used to communicate verbally, but the language was so poor and frustrating to use, that they dropped it altogether, due to its complete uselessness.

The two priests then spoke to each other in shock and said " Well you know what this means don't you!", " It means that since their verbal language is no good, then ALL verbal languages are no good. Thus Japanese, English, Spanish, Russian, etc. all now have to be completely scrapped as well."

This may sound ridiculous, but many people think not, and here is the proof of it.

Imagine that a certain Bible Code language became known of, but was eventually known, via statistic analysis, to be of no great value. These people then proceed to say that ALL possible Bible Code encoding languages are to be scrapped, and thus are saying that all other Bible Code languages are to be scrapped prior to having even been examined. Thus they say that ALL other Bible Code languages are to be completely ignored forever onward.

How did such boundless stupidity ever come about? But it gets worse! This topic involves religion, and so another obvious must be obvious, mustn't it?

If someone dropped a large bolder on one of your feet, and it hurt you big time, and then someone else tried to convince you, via deception, that a large bolder falling on ones foot does not hurt at all, would you believe them?

Of course not, because you have experienced the painful truth of the situation.

Thus if Satan and his followers which to deceive you, and do so to keep you away from the truth, then they would be wasting their time if you had already found the truth of that which they want you to avoid in the first.

Thus if there are TRUE BIBLE CODES, then all Satan needs to keep these truths buried, is a bunch of bloody idiots, who as bloody idiots, will reject ALL Bible Codes based upon an examination of just one particular Bible Code format.

Deceit always comes first. Surely you know that, don't you?

Edited by JesuisSean, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 62 of 76 (625162)
07-21-2011 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by JesuisSean
07-21-2011 4:24 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Bible Codes shouldn't be rejected, just laughed at.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Panda
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Message 63 of 76 (625171)
07-21-2011 4:54 PM
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07-21-2011 4:24 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
JesuisSean writes:

Bible Codes are not just something to be laughed at.


Can you give an example of bible code which doesn't suffer from confirmation bias?

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jar
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Message 64 of 76 (625172)
07-21-2011 4:55 PM
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07-21-2011 4:54 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Nope, but that doesn't make them less fun to laugh at.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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JesuisSean
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Message 65 of 76 (625178)
07-21-2011 5:17 PM
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07-21-2011 4:54 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Unfortunately, the amount that is required to convince someone of its validity, is extreme.

Thus it can only be found on a website that is dedicated to such a purpose.

Thus it can not be exposed here, due to the fact that it will immediately be classified as spamming.

The odd thing though is that over the years the exposure of the "FALSE" Bible Codes, via forums, did not encounter this dilemma.
Only the "TRUE" Bible Codes hit this brick wall of opposition, and this opposition has been going on now for 10 years.


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Message 66 of 76 (625190)
07-21-2011 6:02 PM
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07-21-2011 5:17 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
JesuisSean writes:

Unfortunately, the amount that is required to convince someone of its validity, is extreme.


Well, it is a shame that god's word is so difficult to believe in.
If only he could have thought of a more convincing way to communicate his true meaning...
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JesuisSean
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Message 67 of 76 (625226)
07-21-2011 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Panda
07-21-2011 6:02 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Imagine a priest who volunteers to be a life guard on weekdays. Suddenly, a little girl is screaming for help not to far from the edge of the pool. The priest extends his arm toward the little girl and says, " I believe that I can save you. ". But being a man who sticks to his beliefs, he stands their like a statue with his arm extended toward the little girl. People begin to scream, " Father, do something, she is going to drown.". But he does not, for he is a man who sticks to his beliefs, and thus does not leave them behind and approach the truth itself instead.

What does this mean?

People are only dependent upon beliefs and disbeliefs if they are located at a distance from the truth, and thus are located within the zone of less than truth. If they stick to their beliefs and disbeliefs, then they stick to being located within the zone of less than truth.

They become happy with their beliefs and disbeliefs and thus less than truth is enough for them. Yet at the same time, they believe that they can see the complete truth by looking at less than truth. In turn they think that if something is believed by a majority, then it is true even though less than truth is less than truth.

Thus if you present the truth to them, it is immediately rejected, for it is not the same as less than truth.

Picture Jesus speaking to a group of men who could see and hear the truth, the completeness. He speaks of the truth concerning himself and beyond. He then says to them, " I tell you the truth yet you believe me not.", " What could be better than that my friends".

And his friends say, " Right on J.C., we did not believe a single words that you said, for we heard the Truth instead.".

If they had believed what he had said, then that means that they did not hear the truth, but instead heard only a portion of it, in combination with blind faith and trust. These are two radically different things altogether.

Then he tells them, " Not all people are as wise as you. ", "Others have chosen to be believers and chose to stick to their beliefs". " Thus my fiend's, they will only accept truth as best as they can see it from a distance via the practice of a belief.".

"And so come the bad news my friends.". "We can not speak our truths directly to them in the hear and now, for they are believers who therefore only accept from a distance.

"But fear not my brothers." " We must therefore simply speak to them in a manner of indirectness. " But how say his friends. " My friends, we will speak to them via, parables. ".

But more education was still in need. Christ must prove his point that believers will spit into the face of truth if it is encountered in the hear and now. He sets up a situation in which he is forced to present truths directly to believers. They spit in his face. they call him a liar. They flog him. They scourge him, and they crucify him, and do so all after seeing him as being the exact opposite of his true self.

His point is made clear.

If you believe, and stick to that belief, then you will not see the truth.

Edited by JesuisSean, : correction.

Edited by JesuisSean, : expand


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jar
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Message 68 of 76 (625229)
07-21-2011 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by JesuisSean
07-21-2011 9:20 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Ain't it wonderful how you can make up such stories to support your fantasies?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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JesuisSean
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Message 69 of 76 (625230)
07-21-2011 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by jar
07-21-2011 9:25 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
I make far more than you can think.
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jar
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Message 70 of 76 (625231)
07-21-2011 9:29 PM
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07-21-2011 9:28 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
If you mean money, I believe it. The CCoI is a goldmine.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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JesuisSean
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Message 71 of 76 (625233)
07-21-2011 9:36 PM
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07-21-2011 9:29 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Be careful.
http://www.outersecrets.com/real/the_full_intro.htm
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jar
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Message 72 of 76 (625234)
07-21-2011 9:42 PM
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07-21-2011 9:36 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Too funny.

I am careful and I do enjoy laughing at Bible Codes as well as much of the nonsense marketed by the Christian Cult of Ig norance.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Nuggin
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Message 73 of 76 (625236)
07-21-2011 10:04 PM
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07-21-2011 9:20 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Thus if you present the truth to them, it is immediately rejected, for it is not the same as less than truth.

Blah blah blah.

Truth is subjective.

We deal with facts. Facts are objective.

You can make up all the stories you want about people denying the truth. It doesn't make any difference. Your truth and their truth may not match and you'll never be able to bridge that gap.

However, facts are facts are facts.


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Nuggin
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Message 74 of 76 (625237)
07-21-2011 10:06 PM
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07-21-2011 4:24 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
Thus if there are TRUE BIBLE CODES

If the Bible codes were a real thing, then EVERY SINGLE STRING of letters in ANY directions should form very specific predictions. After all, this is an inerrant code set down by a supreme being with limitless power.

But is that the case? No.

The number of "Bible Codes" are the same as ANY GIVEN DOCUMENT of similar length applied to the same matrix.

In other words, it's MATH.


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Panda
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Message 75 of 76 (625242)
07-21-2011 10:45 PM
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07-21-2011 9:20 PM


Re: Bible codes and life
JesuisSean writes:

Imagine a priest who volunteers to be a life guard on weekdays. Suddenly, a little girl is screaming for help not to far from the edge of the pool. The priest extends his arm toward the little girl and says, " I believe that I can save you. ". But being a man who sticks to his beliefs, he stands their like a statue with his arm extended toward the little girl. People begin to scream, " Father, do something, she is going to drown.". But he does not, for he is a man who sticks to his beliefs, and thus does not leave them behind and approach the truth itself instead.


I know this one!
The girl didn't drown because she was on dry land ("not to far from the edge of the pool").
Did I guess right?

JesuisSean writes:

And his friends say, " Right on J.C., we did not believe a single words that you said, for we heard the Truth instead.".


I like quotes from the bible. This one is cool. The disciples are saying "Right on", which is cool.

JesuisSean writes:

Thus if you present the truth to them, it is immediately rejected, for it is not the same as less than truth.


I have tried to present the truth to you, but you immediately rejected it, for it is not the same as less than truth.
Picture Jesus speaking to a group of men who could see and hear the truth, but you aren't there. You are definitely not there. You will never be there.

If you believe, and stick to that belief, then you will not see the truth.
You MUST stop believing!


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