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Author Topic:   The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood
Rei
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Message 76 of 141 (141472)
09-10-2004 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Cold Foreign Object
09-10-2004 2:26 PM


How do you calculate the Flood being in 3145 BC? Timelines really vary, but they're usually under 2500 years. 2348 is a common number.

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illuminate me."

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crashfrog
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Message 77 of 141 (141490)
09-11-2004 1:40 AM
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09-10-2004 2:25 PM


Good description of those who assert worldwide flood accounts to be a local event in that civilizations history.
Why?
What would prevent someone from making up a myth about a global flood, especially if the threat of flooding was something that they had to live with every day?

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jar
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Message 78 of 141 (141492)
09-11-2004 1:44 AM
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09-10-2004 2:25 PM


So I ask once again.
None of these have anything to do with the topic.
To try to get back towards the topic, how do you explain art styles like those of the Jomon or those of the Cyclades? If everyone died except the folk on the ark, first they would have to reproduce. I assume it took at least 9 month just like today. In addition they would have to increase in number and travel to Japan, in the case of Jomon.
Once these folk got to Japan, many generations after the flood, why would they pick up an art stle that would have been dead for all those generations? Why do we not see any break in the style, any change, any influence from their experience of the flood?
Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?

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lfen
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Message 79 of 141 (141518)
09-11-2004 6:33 AM
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09-10-2004 6:04 PM


Jazzns,
I don't know how long you've lurked here or how much you've read. Willowtree's responses to you are fairly typical of one kind of response posters here make when they can't support a position and so simply begin to attack another opponent. I suppose they are hoping the readership of the threads don't notice their lack of a supportable position?
lfen

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 80 of 141 (141554)
09-11-2004 1:22 PM
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09-11-2004 1:40 AM


What would prevent someone from making up a myth about a global flood
This position assumes ancients to be lying or not meaning what they say.
Why ?

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Message 81 of 141 (141555)
09-11-2004 1:25 PM
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09-11-2004 1:44 AM


Re: So I ask once again.
Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?
Assuming this is true.
I honestly do not know.
Please answer the question.

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Message 82 of 141 (141566)
09-11-2004 2:02 PM
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09-11-2004 1:25 PM


Re: So I ask once again.
So, you don't know.
Let me tell you.
The only conclusion is that there was no interruption in culture. That means there was no world wide flood that wiped out the world.
This conclusion is consistant with biology, with geology, and with archelogy.

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crashfrog
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Message 83 of 141 (141568)
09-11-2004 2:05 PM
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09-11-2004 1:22 PM


This position assumes ancients to be lying or not meaning what they say.
No, rather, your position assumes that the ancients were perfectly truthful and never in error. This is clearly an idiotic thing to assume.

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jar
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Message 84 of 141 (141620)
09-11-2004 4:49 PM
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09-11-2004 1:25 PM


Re: So I ask once again.
Please answer the question.
Are you asking me what I think the explanation of "Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?"
If so, I can answer fairly simply. There was never a world-wide flood, at least not in the last 500,000 years or so.

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Hydarnes
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Message 85 of 141 (141654)
09-11-2004 7:58 PM
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09-07-2004 1:56 AM


*wrong login*
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Lysimachus
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Message 86 of 141 (141656)
09-11-2004 8:00 PM
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09-07-2004 1:56 AM


Rrhain, if you are so positive you've done more research than me in this area, I'd like to challenge you in an Ark debate. I am 100% certain we have Noah's Ark, and there is no way you are going to get around it. Either you accept that we found Noah's Ark, or you are going to be left in the dark buddy.
I want you to scientifically prove to me that that boat shaped object is not Noah's Ark. If you cannot do this, then we have Noah's Ark. If we have Noah's Ark, guess what my friend? Your little Cyclades figures are the most mennial little things you could ever use as an argument. It's not, "if we have a Cyclades head, then we have a problem with the Flood", it's if we have an Ark, then we have a problem of how we are interpreting these so called physics for dating them".
I guarantee you Rrhain, we found the Ark, and if you want so badly for their to not be a God and the flood, you're going to have to disprove our Ark. You've been lied to about that Ark. It's an ungodly world trying to disprove creation.
So I'm waiting for your first questions/reasons why you think we have not found the Ark. Give a shot at it

~Lysimachus

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jar
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Message 87 of 141 (141657)
09-11-2004 8:01 PM
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09-11-2004 7:58 PM


And what does all that have to do with this thread?

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jar
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Message 88 of 141 (141658)
09-11-2004 8:02 PM
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09-11-2004 8:00 PM


See previous message. LOL

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CK
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Message 89 of 141 (141661)
09-11-2004 8:10 PM
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09-11-2004 8:00 PM


Who's found the ark this time? Or are you refering to Ron "crackpot" Wyatt's load of old donkey droppings?
It's a decent gag but I still think the blood of jesus was the best scame he tried to pull off.
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AdminNosy
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Message 90 of 141 (141667)
09-11-2004 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Lysimachus
09-11-2004 8:00 PM


T O P I C !!
You are off topic! It's a cheap ploy to try to shift the topic when you haven't a clue how to answer the issues at hand.
You may if you wish open an "ark" topic.

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