Exodus Part Two: Population of the Exodus Group.

none of you guys even consider the fact that there could be a conspiracy, you think that if they are to HIDE those kind of things that maybe just maybe people would go through that land and CLEAN up all the mess the jews left behind?you wont even consider that i dont understand why! poop? cleaned up, human bodies? cleaned up, animals? cleaned up, charriots? cleaned up!evidence for hebrews living in Egypt? cleaned up!is that impossible? not considering how looking back at our history there are a lot of instances when things that happen were hidden from society and they would never find out until a long time after.

You're really reaching. Mental masturbation.Even the very act of "cleaning up" would leave evidence. In addition, it is impossible to "clean up" the very wear caused by a migration of several million people.Sure the possibility of a conspiracy has been considered, and like so many such alleged conspiracies, does not stand up to examination.

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doesnt stand toexamination only cuz most people dont want the conspiracy...if i walk through a forest with my bags of food and etc. while i walk i clean my footprints so no one would follow me, i sit down to eat at night, make campfire, get water etc.i can clean up my mess to make it look like no one was there, i could put out the fire, scatter the wood, erase my tracs, then keep going.another person comes through the forest and think they are alone. is that impossible? no, what if Moses told them to do just that? to clean up after themselves and leave not a trace? of course this would take some time to do but God did evade the Egyptians.and plus out in the desert its easy to clean up after yourselves, just one look back and you can spot whatever you missed, go back and get it. these people were poor, so they wont waste ANYTHING they had, they wouldnt leave behind pans, cuz they dont have money to buy new ones. think about it.

Sorry, but that does not stand up to examination. While one person might be able to do a fair job as you describe, the history of tracking shows it is seldom effective. There are still things folk miss, still things that cannot be covered up. One good example is the wear on the rock surface.The area they were supposedly traveling through is not the desert sand dunes of the Sahara, it is a rocky waste. Just the wear on the rocks of a couple million folk passing through would leave evidence.

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One minor point. If they did such an excellent job of cleaning up as they went, how come the Egyptians followed them?

becuase the egyptians left right after the Jews left and so they knew were they were going? good point but then how come there isnt a problem of Sodom and Gomorra being burned? or is that another issue well i mean yeah but...its possible to not scratch the rocks i mean tons of people go through places and not scratch the rocks i mean if they were LIVING there then yeah, but if they just passed through then it wouldnt be noticeable and i think the geographics of the lands change, rocks get buried, destroyed etc.

They were living there....40 years in a place the size of the Sinai is living not passing through.Besides that, they spent 38 or so of the 40 years at Kadesh-Barnea.Millions, or even hundreds of thousands of people do not live somewhere for 38 years without leaving some sign.As for your "cleaning up," even cleaning up leaves evidence.

Knew where they were going? They followed a pillar of cloud/pillar of fire through the wilderness. Maybe the unnamed Pharoah homed in on the pillars, too?

The question is, what was the population of the Exodus Group and what evidence supports your estimate?

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Huh?Ever hear of the Ark of the Covenant covered in gold? The showbread table covered in gold? The menorah of pure gold?The golden calf?Wasn't it in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre where the prospectors threw away their canteens so they could carry more gold? The children of Israel likely did the same.ABE: How many people would it take just to carry all that gold?Edited by Ringo, : Turned to face the topic.

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ok the flood left evidence yet that is not proof for you guys, so whatever i say wont be proof anyway.and if i go to virginia right now would i noticed debrees left behind from the english coming over?or better yet, cleaning up doesnt necessarily have to leave evidence i mean if Hitler was smarter than he actually was (which was prety smart) he coulda massacred the Jews and left no trace. even MOST of the German citizens didnt even know what was going on about the Jews, it was so secretive. if they can do it, so can the egyptians or the Jews

a lot...ur point?and so these slaves were "rich" slaves yes?

if you dig around at the right places, yes. you seriously don't think they moved their dead soldiers back to great britain, do you? the abscence of roughly 12 million people (not only jews were killed) would definitely be noticable. and not all the bodies were burned--millions were buried. and the stench of those burned and decaying bodies (graves weren't exactly shallow, and they were mass) would be noticable. um, whatever evidence you all bring up has never been right to my knowledge. but hey, give it a shot (in the proper threads, that is).

My point was that you were dead wrong about the children of Israel being poor. Makes you look like you've never even read the Bible. But lets get to the population.We have a fairly clear description of the tabernacle and its paraphernalia. If we assume that it's historically accurate, can we use that description to estimate how many people would be required to carry the tabernacle? If so, can we use that estimate to further estimate the size of the entire group?

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no i dont think they did, but bones wouldnt be preserved, let alone 200 years ago compared to 3000 years ago. noticeable if you went there right after, but, it wouldnt be there anymore after a very long time. and plus if Hitler never messed up and fallen he coulda hid the whole massacre better. how do you think we know? cuz he fell, if he never fell we woulda never known. once it was all over we discover what they did to the jews.actually up till now, MANY millions of people do not know about the Armenian Genocide. if it were hidden by the Turks and all Armenians were killed, no one would ever know of it, middle east would definitely not give in easily and say "yep we did it" actually up until today they dont admit that they did that! i have a few but they have been disputed against