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Author Topic:   The Unacknowledged Accuracy of Genesis 1
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Message 54 of 302 (355912)
10-11-2006 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by oblivionlord
10-11-2006 1:18 PM


oblivionlord writes:
in your opinion, what do you think an ants perception of God is or do you think an Ant is incapable of such thoughts since they have such low cerebral functions?
An ant's perception of God is probably about as accurate as a Christian's perception of God.

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Message 141 of 302 (408087)
06-30-2007 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by IamJoseph
06-30-2007 10:59 AM


IAmJoseph writes:
That the genesis calendar is the most accurate - by a very far scale, is not in dispute anywhere.
It's in dispute here, sonny.
By definition, a "calendar" that mentions only days can not possibly have a resolution of billionths of a second. Nor can it predict anything.

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Message 151 of 302 (408166)
07-01-2007 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by IamJoseph
06-30-2007 11:13 PM


IamJoseph writes:
There is however no dispute about the predictability factor of the OT calendar.
We're talking about Genesis 1 here. There simply is no "calendar" in Genesis 1.
I can post you more affirmations of this than what you term as 'disputed'.
You haven't posted anything resembling an "affirmation" yet. All you've posted is assertions.
You could start by showing us the verses in Genesis 1 that describe a calendar accurate to a billionth of a second. Then you could continue by showing us predictions it made 100,000 years in advance. Then, for an encore, you could explain to us how predictions 100,000 years in the future - made 6000 years in the past - can be termed "accurate".

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Message 156 of 302 (408172)
07-01-2007 1:04 AM
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07-01-2007 12:54 AM


IamJoseph writes:
I never said predictions were made 100k years in advance, but that a sunset can be predicted 100k years in advance.
That doesn't answer the question. How can you claim "accuracy" for 100,000 year predictions - of a sunset or anything else - if the calendar itself is only 6000 years old?
What's the relevance anyway? Any idiot can predict that there will be a sunset 100,000 years from now. How does that relate to the "unacknowledged accuracy of Genesis 1"?
And I'm still waiting for the chapter and verse where it talks about billionths of a second.

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Message 177 of 302 (408219)
07-01-2007 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by IamJoseph
07-01-2007 1:59 AM


IamJoseph writes:
A 6000 year document can give a formular or premise which can be used to measure time - back or front.
Again, that's not the question. I'm asking: How can you know it's accurate to 100,000 years when the longest it's been tested for is 6000 years? What you're saying is equivalent to saying that a gun that's sighted at 6000 yards is accurate to 100,000 yards.
The genesis calendar is thus very accurate, incorporating the fluctuating movements and inclinations of the bodies which effect time on the earth and the seasonal change patterns and sea levels pursuent to full moon events - noted in Genesis.
Again, you haven't shown where any of those fluctuations or inclinations are mentioned in Genesis.
I can get you the calendar in Genesis, which is common knowledge...
The calendar is common knowledge. The details in Genesis are not. Show them.
but not the billion second demand: seconds were not discovered yet, remember?
You made the claim in Message 136:
quote:
The Genesis calendar, which is the oldest and most accurate in existence [able to predict a sunset a 100,000 years in advance, and accurate to a billionth of a sec]
The discussion isn't about the accuracy of our calendar and it isn't about any connection between our calendar and that of the ancient Hebrews. The discussion is about the knowledge they had.
The "billionth of a second" can not have any relevance to Genesis if they didn't even have seconds.

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