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Author Topic:   Adam was created on the 3rd day
Garrett
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Message 109 of 233 (397779)
04-27-2007 5:38 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by highskies
04-26-2007 11:48 AM


Re: tenses
Genesis 1 is an ordered list of events and Genesis 2 is a restatement of the creation account, in non-linear form emphasising key events. This was a common form of writing at the time. First state a ordered list, then discuss points more in-depth (not necessarily in order). There is no contradiction.

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Garrett
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Message 111 of 233 (397789)
04-27-2007 5:55 PM
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04-27-2007 5:41 PM


Well another easy one would be found in the Bible itself. Matthew's treatment of Christ's ministry is topical and not always in order, whereas Mark's record is chronological.
Gleason Archer observed that the “technique of recapitulation was widely practiced in ancient Semitic literature. The author would first introduce his account with a short statement summarizing the whole transaction, and then he would follow it up with a more detailed and circumstantial account when dealing with matters of special importance” (1964, p. 118).
In the case of Gen 1 vs. Gen 2 - Genesis 1 was a chronological account, and Genesis 2 was a non-linear topical account dealing with man and his environment.
This info is all widely available if one is truly interested in finding it.

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Garrett
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From: Dallas, TX
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Message 122 of 233 (400245)
05-11-2007 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by jar
04-27-2007 6:30 PM


Re: An irrelevant technique
It's actually not irrelevant. The fact that authors would present topics in non-chronological order to emphasize a particular subject or context relates to the "dual" genesis accounts completely. Your minor point about the synoptic gospel accounts not being by the same author is valid, but shows more my lack of time to jump through hoops to present the precise example that would please you rather than any lack of relevence of the original point.
The fact is, some accounts in the gospels in particular are given out of order and often skipping details in between. An example would be when dealing with the miracles that Jesus performed on earth. When reaching that point, the main ordering of the text ends and is supplanted by a "list" so to speak of non-chronological events. This happens because the main timeline story arrived at a point where Jesus' miracles became the focal point and required further clarification. Likewise, the 2nd telling of the Genesis account delves deeper into the special relationship between God and man as opposed to other animals because the subject matter logically needed to follow.
What is irrelevant is your statement as fact that the Genesis myths didn't have only one author. I'm sure the thousands of Doctorate level researchers would be happy to hear that you've finally conclusively proved who penned one of the most controversial accounts of all time. Last I heard, the common consensus was the Moses wrote the Pentatuech....possibly using original source documents or stories passed down from Adam, etc....

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