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Author Topic:   Adam was created on the 3rd day
Mikael Fivel
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Message 150 of 233 (412860)
07-26-2007 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by graft2vine
07-28-2006 7:28 PM


Gen 1:9-13
9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so.
10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so.
12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
13 And there was evening, and there was morning ” the third day.
NIV
Gen 1:26-31
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground ” everything that has the breath of life in it ” I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning ” the sixth day.
NIV
There is nowhere in the third day that mentions or implies the creation of man. Also, the note the distinct difference between Creature and Man does not imply that Man is animal.

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Mikael Fivel
Member (Idle past 6111 days)
Posts: 70
Joined: 03-23-2007


Message 152 of 233 (412872)
07-26-2007 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by graft2vine
07-26-2007 3:12 PM


Re: Creature and Man
"Genesis 1 and 2 are of the same order. One fills in the gaps of the other. What Genesis 1 does is establish the order of when the creation of things were completed... often through the use of "it was good". Adam was formed on the third day, but his creation was not complete... he was an unfinished vessel."
you reference no scripture that points to your implication that Adam was created in two steps. Also, you made no scriptural evidence to support him being created on the third day in any step, other than whole, at all. The third day is, in both chapters one and two, the day in which God created habitation.
Gen 1:9-13
9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning ” the third day.
NIV
There is no mention of human life till day six.
The beginning of the second chapter is reviewing what was created and not in any specific order, putting things where they should be, but still *after* it was created. Basically, as if God were making sure things were in order before setting all His creation in motion. I see what you're saying about him being Created and Formed as two seperate stages, but it's not the third day.
The reason why i say "before setting all his creation in motion" is because if you read the last portion of Genesis 1 right through to the middle of chapter 2, it's basically comparable to making a computer:
you assemble the parts in their correct order and place them in their slots. but then you have to plug it in and set it in motion.
Chapter 2:7 restates that God created the man, but adds the detail of him being created from dust (because chapter one didn't say that), but also states how God puts him in motion. It doesn't say that was his second step of creation.
Edited by Mikael Fivel, : No reason given.

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