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Author Topic:   Earthquakes And End Time Biblical Prophecy
Dan Carroll
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Message 226 of 301 (174809)
01-07-2005 5:23 PM
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01-07-2005 4:07 PM


Re: This is dum.
I like to think of mine more as Batman. I sat down at my bat-google, and it spat out a bat-answer.

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Message 227 of 301 (174813)
01-07-2005 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Dan Carroll
01-07-2005 5:23 PM


Re: This is dum.

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Christian7
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Message 228 of 301 (174815)
01-07-2005 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Dan Carroll
01-07-2005 5:23 PM


Re: This is dum.
lol. Anyway, duh. I never said it was my list. If I did, I would go through the ussually glory hog routine even though the bible says your not suppost to do that.
Btw, another tsunami is coming. According to the bible, it is just gona happen over and over and over and over again untill the end.
Even science says it.

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Brian
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Message 229 of 301 (174827)
01-07-2005 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by Christian7
01-07-2005 5:33 PM


Guido-soft in the head
Btw, another tsunami is coming. According to the bible, it is just gona happen over and over and over and over again untill the end.
And the more people that die and suffer fills you great joy.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You make a mockery of Jesus teachings.
Brian.

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riVeRraT
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Message 230 of 301 (174829)
01-07-2005 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by nator
01-07-2005 7:55 AM


Re: Interesting
It was a joke...

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riVeRraT
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Message 231 of 301 (174830)
01-07-2005 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by nator
01-07-2005 8:00 AM


Anyway, fearful, chaotic, high-stress moments are generally not good times to form accurate memories.
Thats why I don't remeber anything I said in this forum.
Boy you will explain away just about anything won't you?

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jar
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Message 232 of 301 (174832)
01-07-2005 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by Christian7
01-07-2005 5:33 PM


Re: This is dum.
Btw, another tsunami is coming. According to the bible, it is just gona happen over and over and over and over again untill the end.
Of course they are. They will come even if the Bible said they wouldn't.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Christian7
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Message 233 of 301 (174834)
01-07-2005 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by jar
01-07-2005 6:37 PM


Re: This is dum.
Right. Your lucky the bible says what it says, and warns what is warns, and you are still stubbern to accept it. Jesus didn't have to warn us, this is why god doesn't just show up, cause people won't believe him anyway. If they would, then howcome you don't.
This filfills my joy because I know Jesus is returning, this also adds to my sadness because of what happened to the people. Now, your trying to turn christians into sick people. Well, excuse me, we christians don't go around sucking peoples dicks like some sluts do.
I'm sorry about that admin, but I am trying to describe what I am talking about so tas what I put.
"You make a mockery of jesus teachings"
You don't even believe it, so you have nothing to say what'soever on the matter. So you can't say anything about the bible.
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nator
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Message 234 of 301 (174839)
01-07-2005 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by riVeRraT
01-07-2005 6:31 PM


Re: Interesting
oh.
sorry.

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nator
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Message 235 of 301 (174841)
01-07-2005 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by riVeRraT
01-07-2005 6:34 PM


Anyway, fearful, chaotic, high-stress moments are generally not good times to form accurate memories.
quote:
Thats why I don't remeber anything I said in this forum.
Damn, rat, what kind of crazy computer do you have?
quote:
Boy you will explain away just about anything won't you?
I didn't explain it away.
I just explained it in a way that didn't require magic.
I have no idea if god stopped the wave where he was. However, if he did, then why didn't he stop the whole wave from killing the 140,000 people?
Seems like another one of those "we understand the ways of God when good things happen but when bad things happen, we find the ways of god very mysterious" moments.

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Christian7
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Message 236 of 301 (174845)
01-07-2005 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by nator
01-07-2005 6:51 PM


duh.
Most of the times, ussually, when bad things happen, guess what. GOD DIDN'T DO IT!!!! We did, and so did nature. God had a really nice system going, but we sinned, so god let it become a mess as punishment for our sins. God does not wan't people to goto hell but he cannot do anything against his nature. He has 2 basic natures:
1. Just
2. Loving
He cannot reject one or the other. So he sen't his son on the cross to carry out his justice, and at the same time, so his love. All you have to do is accept. IT IS SO EASY.
So if you find yourself burning up in hell, it's your own falt.
God did everything he could for you. He isn't gona pop out a know where and say "FOLLOW ME". That makes sense ya know.
Just follow your children around all day and make sure they still love you. Wouldn't you rather them chose to love you without you popen out all over the place trying to re-inforce it.
You think god said, "Tidel waves comin, hey this is good". I don't think so. It is a natural result of nature, of a system that was once perfect, but because of man's falt, god cursed it.
God is not MAGIC, he is god. Is computer programming magic? No. Does everything on the computer happen naturaly from things that already exist no, not when the aumnipatant programmer sits down at C++ and makes new laws. The universe is a creation of god, it is designed to be logical and we are designed to think logicaly, but sometimes, we don't know what were doing and we jump to errounous conclusions such as "Hey, everything just poped out of no where for no reason" when in fact it was god.
Please forgive me of my mispellings but I type 2 paragraphs in like 20 secconds so I don't notice it much, and I don't have time to think cause I am typing so much. So that's why I leave out alot of information sometimes.
DO you think it should be like this:
God: Hey you wan't to come to heaven with me, just accept my son's substitue punishment for your sin.
Man: No.
God: No, I am forcing you to come to heaven with me.
No, it is more like this:
God: Hey you wan't to come to heaven with me, just accept my son's substitue punishment for your sin.
Man: No
God: Ok, but your gona goto hell if you don't come to heaven because I tried everything to save you but you just wan't take it.
Man: I know, I just don't wan't to be apart of your kingdom.
God: Ok, it's your choice.
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jar
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Message 237 of 301 (174848)
01-07-2005 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Christian7
01-07-2005 6:41 PM


Re: This is dum.
Right. Your lucky the bible says what it says, and warns what is warns, and you are still stubbern to accept it.
The point is it really doesn't matter what the Bible says. Earthquakes and Tsunamis will happen regardless.
But you try to connect the recent tsunami to some vague end-time vision that not even all Bible scholars agree is prophetic.
Jesus didn't have to warn us, this is why god doesn't just show up, cause people won't believe him anyway.
We'll I don't remember Jesus spending all that much time talking about tsunamis.
If they would, then howcome you don't.
Well,I certainly believe in Jesus, just not in some vague end-times prophecy. And I certainly don't believe in a GOD that would willfully kill hundreds of thousands to send a telegram.
This filfills my joy because I know Jesus is returning,
But there has been no evidence offered that shows any connection between the tsunami and any Biblical prophecy and even less between the tsunami any hypothetical End-Time.
Now, your trying to turn christians into sick people.
Not at all, not CHRISTIANS, only some really sick christians. And I don't have to do much. What they do and say on their own lets folk know just how sick they are.
Well, excuse me, we christians don't go around sucking peoples dicks like some sluts do.
Now that certainly lets folk know just what kind of a Christian you are. LOL

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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riVeRraT
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Message 238 of 301 (174851)
01-07-2005 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by berberry
01-07-2005 12:45 PM


Re: Interesting
I can accept that, but the intent was not to pass judgement.
Right, I knew you weren't passing judgement. I was just pointing something out. I try to see things from both sides as much as I can.
If a Christian had said that, he would have heard it, I'm sure. But I understand where your coming from.
But I should think these are things we don't even need to worry about. If anything, it seems to me that such tragedies are evidence that God is not directly involved in nature. He may be available to those of us who want him involved in our lives, but it seems obvious to me that he doesn't send tsunamis, hurricanes, earthquakes and tornadoes, among other disasters, to punish people. And why should he? Our reward or punishment is to come in the after-life, no?
Yes and no. I made up my mind a long time ago when trying to figure out end time stuff, and God sending us his wrath, using nature. I decided like you, I am not going to worry about it, I will just live my life like he is coming tomorrow, or I could die tomorrow.
God did curse the land, so yes, all of these disasters could not be he's wrath, or punishment from him. The important thing is that we do not try and judge if it is or isn't.
I would think that it would happen more like the OT anyway, where a prophet would come along and at least warn us first, then it would make it more valid.
Our rewards and punishments, and trials come here on earth too. It's all about being obedient to him.
Also remember that nothing happens except by the will of the Father. So in a matter of speaking, yes the Tsunami was from him. But was it his wrath? Not for us to judge. Is it a sign of the end times? I don't think so.
You're sounding more and more like jar these days, riVeRraT. I think this would be a better world if more Christians took that sentiment to heart.
Thank you very much. I am still learning.
In this forum, its hard to talk about these things without sounding like your putting judgement on people. It also has taught me how to be more Christian, along with other training I am going through.
We say and do things and have no clue how we affect people with our words. As a Christian, we should be leading the way in demostrating truth and love. But it starts with ourselves.
People want to Christians for the light, and love, and when they don't see it (like when a priest molests a child) It turns them away.
All this light and love does not come to us unless we are in constant contact with the father. I give the battles to him, let him deal with the wrath, and the idiots. That puts me free and clear to love people, even if they hurt me, or others.

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Brian
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Message 239 of 301 (174852)
01-07-2005 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Christian7
01-07-2005 6:41 PM


Guido-soft in the head
Right. Your lucky the bible says what it says, and warns what is warns, and you are still stubbern to accept it.
Let me see, if the Bible didnt talk about tidal waves we wouldnt know that they were a danger?
Jesus didn't have to warn us,
Jesus was only interested in feathering his own nest.
this is why god doesn't just show up, cause people won't believe him anyway.
What?
Are you saying if Jesus turned up in the middle of Tesco's and zapped a couple of people, or if He was decent enough to turn up in Indonesia and help the poor peole there that no one would believe?
Are you completely nuts?
If they would, then howcome you don't.
Because God has done bugger all for 2000 years!
This filfills my joy because I know Jesus is returning,
You are indeed a prick.
this also adds to my sadness because of what happened to the people.
Hey, but your joy far outweighs your sadness, I'd put my last penny on that.
Now, your trying to turn christians into sick people.
No I'm not.
I'm turning you into a sick person. You and Christianity have nothing in common.
Well, excuse me, we christians don't go around sucking peoples dicks like some sluts do.
But some Christians do suck dick, I have have several Christian girlfriends who have done just that.
"You make a mockery of jesus teachings"
You don't even believe it,
I believe in many of Jesus' teachings, sorry make that I belive in rabbi Hillel's teachings, since Jeuss plagiarised them.
so you have nothing to say what'soever on the matter. So you can't say anything about the bible.
Neither do you, since you are as much of a Xian as I am, probably less so.
Get a clue.
BTW. you have posted over 80 messages and you still canot reply to the message that you are referring to.
Brian.

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Christian7
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Message 240 of 301 (174853)
01-07-2005 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by jar
01-07-2005 7:14 PM


Re: This is dum.
Why are you excluding only certain parts of my post to make me look bad?
Bible prophecy is not vauge, it is very percise. There is actually, a THIS WILL, and THEN THIS, in the bible. But we are not suppost to know that much, that is not good for god's plan. God has a reason for everything.
Now, I just don't know what you mean by killing millions of INNOCENT people. Nobody is inocent, not you, not me, not nodbody. We are all with sin, we all deserve to burn up in hell forever. But since GOD is so quite the oppisite of what you suggest, he has provided and alternative by sending his son to die on the cross.
"Shows what kind of christian you are"
I said we all have sin.

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