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Author Topic:   Increase in Natural Disasters? Prophesied?
ramoss
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Message 36 of 157 (257012)
11-05-2005 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by NosyNed
11-04-2005 11:33 PM


Re: Determining if something is increasing
I think it is also to determine what is a 'Natural disaster'. An earthquake in an unpopulated area?? A mud slid where no village is?
One factor that has to be taken into account is the fact that we have a much larger population in the world today than we did in the year 1948. Often , people are living in higher risk areas because of that, and a lot more of them.

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Message 55 of 157 (257250)
11-06-2005 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
11-05-2005 8:52 PM


Re: Questions buz needs to answer.
There were 'signs' in the minor and major prophets.
They were always for the immediate generation, for the situation they were in then, not for some ambigious future though. The signs were , of course, always written about after they had come about.
The Jewish concept of prophecy was not predicting for the future, but rahter messages to guild the living back to the path of rightiousness at the momment.
If you look at all the phrases that Christians take for predicting Jesus IN CONTEXT, they never point to some event hundreds of years in the future, but rather something that has occured at the writing,or is
occuring at the writing of those passages. Taking one or two phrases out of context, then taking another one or two phrases out of context from a book several hundred years later to back it up is not prediction the future, but rather shoehorning 'Predictions' into place to make it appear that something miraculous has happened.
Oh.. and then relationing at story, and using out of context phrases as if they were predictions is a dishonest technique to. The writer of the Gospel of Matthew was particularly fond of that.

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ramoss
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Message 56 of 157 (257252)
11-06-2005 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
11-05-2005 10:31 PM


Re: Buzsaw "logic"
Several things you are not taking into account.
1) The increase in population, putting more people in risk, and the building up areas that can be damanged.
2) The fact hurricanes frequencey is cyclical.. and it happened both 35 and 70 years ago.
3) The fact our tehcnology and communiations have increased, and we are aware of more storms that used to be unnoticed.
Yes, there probably is an increase slightly due to global warming, but
it is unknown how big a boost it is. We have only been tracking hurricanes for 100 years.

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Message 138 of 157 (260553)
11-17-2005 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by randman
11-17-2005 2:57 AM


Re: Never heard of Robertson killing people
With Robertson, his political ideoelogy and his faith seem linked. He wanted people to 'pray' that certain supreme court judged are gone. He threatened hurricanes and disasters sent by god to all sorts of places whose POLITICAL or business decisions he disagreed with (Not that any self respecting god would listen to him.). He is using a religious show to promote political opinions.

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ramoss
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Message 148 of 157 (263368)
11-26-2005 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Buzsaw
11-26-2005 12:46 PM


Re: Update on Hurricanes
ANd when this current cycle disapates in about 15 to 20 years, and ther eis no apocalapse, what will you believe then?

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ramoss
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Message 150 of 157 (263424)
11-26-2005 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Buzsaw
11-26-2005 9:59 PM


Re: Update on Hurricanes
Well, I know one thing. it won't be by rapture. That whole concept is a really bad mistranslation, and bad theology from the 19'th century (as most understand 'rapture'.

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