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Author Topic:   Introduction to the Federalists Party - Kuresu
Damouse
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Message 31 of 35 (355792)
10-11-2006 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by kuresu
10-11-2006 12:16 AM


Re: Introduction to the Christian Democratic Party--Foreign Policy
Grr. lol fine so you called my puritan bluff. (btw, ever read the Scarlet Letter?)

Aright, wikipedia agrees with you, i concede the point. I still think its a terrible idea and violates a lot of things that are set down if not in law then at least in tradition: you dont play around with religion and politics, the two dont slide well together. Evan as is, what are you insinuating with the party name, that only christians can be apart? thats pretty messed up, seeing as america is not all christian, and has no desire to be.
Lets assume your party gets off the ground, and becomes the majority. What next, the Catholic-Christian Democratic party? All sorts of sub-sections within one party?

i dont know, it sounds too exclusive, and very intolerant. For-us-by-us-you-keep-your-mouth-shut-and-let-the-adults-talk kinda thing.


-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses
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kuresu
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From: boulder, colorado
Joined: 03-24-2006


Message 32 of 35 (355793)
10-11-2006 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Damouse
10-11-2006 12:19 AM


Re: Introduction to the Christian Democratic Party--Foreign Policy
Yes but their economy was not shot because ours was, it was messed up because of the second world war.

please tell me that you mistyped this. otherwise I will have to hit you over the head just as much as you want to hit me for the name of the party.

the first german economic crisis was due to WWI and the massive reparations we forced on them. The Weimar republic began to rebuild the economy, so that it looked as if it had a chance by the late twenties. At which point, the US crashed, taking down Europe with it--and sending germany back into a second economic crisis--this time saved by Hitler and the buildup of his war machine.

As I mentioned--the only nukes we care about are those that people are trying to get--Iran and North Korea, specifically. You see, rational leaders will recognize the whole mutually assured destruction bit--and as much as they might hate their enemy, they won't use them just to die too. Can you say the same for a destabilized leader? Why do you think there is a IAE (and whatever else follows that acronym--the governing body for nukes). Why do you think the US (as far as we know) isn't making new nukes? Why do you think the US and Russia have been reducing their stockpiles?

As to your point about US military power--yes, we can still reach every corner of the globe--we can hit any beach within 48 hours, we can hit any target (by air) in a day. But pray tell me how we can respond with our army in the Korean peninsula when they're occupied with Iraq? That's a logistical nightmare--leave Iraq unprotected to fight back North Korea, never mind getting them there. Unless you seriously want to us to move back to a drafted army with no where near the level of training our current military has?

And how long can we continue to stretch ourselves? If we have allies, especially on the military side of things, it makes it easier for us to project our power--it may be, oh, say, Australia going into North Korea, but they are our friends and allies, so it may as well be us going in there.


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kuresu
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Message 33 of 35 (355794)
10-11-2006 12:34 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Damouse
10-11-2006 12:28 AM


Re: Introduction to the Christian Democratic Party--Foreign Policy
it's supposed to be inclusive--which is why we will probably settle on CARD.

yeah, I've read the scarlet letter. I agree that you don't mix religion and politics, but you have to realize that the republican bastion, especially in the south, is christian. We will have to make the distinction very clear, yes, but I think it's doable. Until someone comes up with a better name, it's going to be as it is. (keeping in mind the whole compromise, finding middle ground thing)


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Damouse
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Message 34 of 35 (355883)
10-11-2006 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by kuresu
10-11-2006 12:31 AM


Re: Introduction to the Christian Democratic Party--Foreign Policy
lol of course its misspelled. If you go back and look at that post youll see that i changed it.

Ill edit this post later for facts and a counter-argument, i was just checking the forums for replies.


-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses
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kuresu
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Message 35 of 35 (357312)
10-18-2006 5:17 PM
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10-11-2006 12:04 PM


Re: Introduction to the Christian Democratic Party--Foreign Policy
I'm still waiting for the edit you promised.


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