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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Its not so much that Iano loves or does not love his sorry self its more that iano's love for himself is defined by what it is that constitutes healthy self-love. And healthy self-love must be defined by an other in order to be sure it is healthy. For who can safely define self-love for themselves?
My problem is in loving all those others. Many of them are not very lovable, for one thing, Not by your standard or mine, I agree. If someone comes along though, and shows you just how loveable you are and you find that nigh-on impossible to accept (for you know of your own unlovable-ness - in detail) then it becomes easier. Not simple but easier.
for another thing, I only have so much love in me too pass around. I have to be frugal. Frugal is someone running on a tank that cannot be internally replenished - like, whoever heard of a tank that is internally replenished. Sure, I can be tight with my love at times. But then he fills the tank again and I'm free to press on the gas again. Externally replenished tanks can run forever
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lfen Member (Idle past 4705 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Many of them are not very lovable Quite. If you were to use the word compassion as in be compassionate, view others compassionately, have compassion for the suffering and difficulty of others, or treat others with compassion would that change your feelings in any way? lfen
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
If someone comes along though, and shows you just how loveable you are and you find that nigh-on impossible to accept (for you know of your own unlovable-ness - in detail) then it becomes easier. Not simple but easier. That's all very well, iano, but if you are like me and have all these good points, it's hard to see past that to the bad stuff. Just to give you a small sample: 1. I have "robust enthusiasm for the wonder of life."2. I "just try." 3. I have "exemplary moral character."
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
If you were to use the word compassion as in be compassionate, view others compassionately, have compassion for the suffering and difficulty of others, or treat others with compassion would that change your feelings in any way? I have no compassion for the bad boys.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Okay.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
1. I have "robust enthusiasm for the wonder of life." 2. I "just try." 3. I have "exemplary moral character." One is truly fooling oneself in that instance. And they know it. Did someone actually say 3?! 1 and 2 are easy. But not 3. Never. Not possible. It couldn't be. That's some made up lie like your "I went to a really fantastic college where everyone was made of aluminium" assertion thingy
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But not 3. Never. Not possible. It couldn't be. The claim that morality cannot exist without belief in an archaic mythology is simply false. By my own existence as an atheist and a man of exemplary moral character, my existence (as well as the vast number of moral atheists out there) I disprove the first premise. Thus, the entire argument is invalid. Ha, ha.
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Well I never....
I see no * attached. Love would not reveal the source however much hate would want to revel. Check that out and see for yourself Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I see no * attached. Love would not reveal the source however much as hate would want to. Check it out and see for yourself Just a guy who loves himself.
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Thats not love. Thats a lie. You at least, know this
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
You at least, know this I don't know about that, but get this, iano: the reason he doesn't post much anymore, he said, was that the Christians were so arrogant. Ha!
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
I AM
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
...lest one should think that on becoming a Christian, one's oneness simply disappears. The essential difference is that one wishes it were only so. Call it a paradigm shift.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
"one's oneness"?
Does that mean the same thing as "my myness"?
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iano Member (Idle past 1969 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Yeah..sounds kind of "The Tibeten book of Living and Dying" - or some such like doesn't it.
More like: still able to make all decisions one wants (just like in virtual world) but having a reason from another not to make them a certain way. With the nudge always being something you can ignore - but wishing you didn't. Think of it as your mother telling you to "brush your teeth" then when they start falling out of your head, realising she was making sense.
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