Does Eve know God more than Adam?

If nothing else, at least we've exposed a contradiction in the Bible

JaywillYou wrote
“I let the Bible guide my logic.”Is the talking snake logical?
I prefer to let logic guide me. God must think logically.You wrote
“But if you cherry pick those passages only which reinforce what you hold as pre-conceived beliefs, aren't you concerned that you will get a skewed picture of God?”I can’t preconceive anything until I read it. Only after reading can I see if or where it fits.You wrote
“I wish you would open up and consider that what else the Bible says is also important.”Who says that I am not open and what important facts are you referring to?
Show where I have a closed mind.You wrote
“ I suggest you try to prayerfully say "Amen" to all that the Bible says for one week.”Like here?Deut21-18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.I will let you Amen this. Not me thanks.Regards
DLEdited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

Yes. Like there. Like everywhere if you know how allow the Holy Spirit room in your being.Like everywhere because "All Scripture is God breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rigthteousness that the man of God may be complete, fully equiped for every good work" (2 tim. 3:16,17)If you think by Amen I mean go out and imitate everything you read that's your ignorance.But then again perhaps you don't know anything about the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Keep reading.Maybe you'll get clearer.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

The Bible tells us that ALL Scripture is profitable ... for the person whose aim is to be a "man of God."If you're not interested in being a "man of God," I don't know how profitable any passage will be to you.

Stand in your church some time and read that scripture and ask for an amen and see what kind of reaction you get. You may want to bring a stone or two for others to use on you.Only a fool reads the Bible literally and thinks that word written by men are writen by God. Constantine would laugh at you as he rejects the other books that were in the initial selection.Regards
DL

I lost track a little of what this conversation was about. But your last submission reads: Now if the Bible itself says that Jesus spoke thus and such in parables it is obvious that some things written in the Bible are to be taken parabolically.If some things are told us plainly that they are "signs" (ie. Rev. 1:1) then it is obvious that some of these matters are to be taken symbolicially.If some people or places have names which are indicative of thier personalities or of important events which happened to be associated with them, then it is very probable if not sometimes obvious, that the name should have both a historical significance as well as symbolic.If you say I am a fool for believing that God created the universe, or that Christ is the Son of God, or the He died a redemptive death on the cross, or that He rose from the dead on the third day, or that He is the life giving Holy Spirit Who can be received into man today ... I gladly accept the label of "fool" for believing these things.The bottom line here is that there are places where I take the Bible to mean something literally and there are places where I take it to mean symbolism. And there are places where it is a combination of both literal and symbiolic.I don't think the skill to discriminate which is which comes quickly or easily. I think it takes time, experience, patience, prayer and fellowship with other believers before one commits to a certain understanding.And there are places where sincere people can have disagreement.I have not quickly reviewed what we were talking about before (as I really should). But that's my answer to your last post.One thing I do believe is that for God to perform a miracle is not surprising to me. At times He did so. He did not always do so. And at many times when it was wanted that He do so He did not.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

If God wanted us to believe in miracles then He would have left an example for us to view and ponder. He did not.Why not? It would sure make believers out of many.
IE when He parted the sea He could have left it that way and found some other way to kill them pesky Egyptians.Regards
DL

Okay, I briefly reviewed how we got into this exchange.I talked about the profit of saying "Amen" to all of the Scripture and you objected.Then I pointed out how all Scripture is spiritually profitable and you still object.You don't understand the nature of the Word of God and how it profits man. You also don't understand the economy (OIKONOMIA or household management ) of God and what He is doing with man.You don't understand how the Word of God is designed to most importantly bring us into contact with God and allow God to infuse His Spirit into our beings.You don't understand how to read the Bible with the excercise or your regenerated human spirit.Maybe you are not born again. Maybe your human spirit is still comatose and deadened and you are in need of the regeneration of the Spirit of Christ.But I am glad you are at least reading the Bible. You may come into believing in Christ and receiving Him into your spirit by reading. That is if you have a willingness to be changed by God and are opened in your heart to receive the resurrected and living Jesus as the Lord. Then you may eventually learn that we should come to the Bible at the same time as coming to God. We should always come to the Bible to receive God and touch God inwardly.I am not suggesting playing a kind of Russian Roulette randomly going out to imitate whatever passage your finger falls on. Nor am I suggesting that you hunt for perculiar passages of some negative tone and decide that they are the basis of your daily behavior.I am saying the entire Bible is inspired with the Spirit of God and can infuse us with the divine element.If you sit down to a turkey dinner you will not get much from the feathers. And you don't need to search for bones to choke on. But all in all the turkey is a delicious feast if you come hungry for its nourishment and taste. Even licking a bone can be good.So, I have found it profitable to "Amen" the Bible in every place. The Holy Spirit will gradually train you if you are not stubburn, to dicern both the Logos of truth and the Rhema of His instanct up to date speaking expressly to your personal circumstances and life.

Constantine would be pleased that you think that the books he selected for inclusion in the Bible made you think they came from God.I don,t know why any would reject the true God to follow a jesus made into a hybrid God/man.We all are destined to bask in the light of God. not have to stay in the shadow of some hybrid.Jesus was a great prophet and Rabbi, nothing else. To say He was divine insults both him and God. God does not practice bestiality with someone elses wife.Regards
DL

Constantine did not dicide what books made up the New Testament books. The the canon is not an authoritative list of books it is a list of authoritative books.The books did not have authenticity bestowed upon them to make them canonical. The authenticity was discovered and recognized. I don't know what you mean by "hybrid". But the New Testament says that the true God is the God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent. So this is the true God and eternal life in the New Testament means the Trinity. But even more importantly it is the experience of the Trinity which counts. That is why John says "THIS ... is the true God" in a subjective way.Now here is the passage: The word "this" in the phrase "this is the true God and eternal life" refers back to "Him Who is true and also to "His Son Jesus Christ"This One is a Trinity - Father - Son - and Holy Spirit. However in this passage only the Father and the Son are highlighted. Elsewhere we see the Spirit included." ... we might know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ."The regenerated and born again believers know Him who is true and are in the realm and sphere of Him who is true. To be in the realm of Him who is true is to be in His Son Jesus Christ. And being in the true one and in His Son is being in the true God and having eternal life.So to follow the true God is to live IN the true God and allow the true God to live out from within us. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children keep yourselves from idols."Nothing should replace the true God and eternal life. Anything usurping His preeminence in our lives can become an idol. For THIS - this Triune God into Whom we may organically enter and within Whom we may live - is the true God and eternal life.That is the One Who sent His Son Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the divine "this" Who is the true God and eternal life. God's eternal purpose is to dispense Himself into man that He and man may be united together. Man was created to receive God as life and live in an interwoven and united incorporation with God - God in man and man in God.This is the teaching of the Bible and the true Gospel.

A thought which tends to leave me gobsmacked whenever I quieten down long enough to begin to begin to appreciate the monumentality of it all.."Good news". What an understatement.

If Jesus is god then He sure wasted His time on earth. Nothing changed with His presence except for those who say they follow Him and have no clue as to where they are going.
As a prophet He gave us things to think about but He has no authority to place himself between God and His souls.We all have to pay our own debts. Would you pay someone else's debts and let them off the hook.Regards
DL

Good news? Many words and no substance.Regards
DL

That's pretty ignorant.I find it ignorant even on a secular level. Take a highschool history course.You might start with an inquiry into the creation of the terms BC and AD.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Er...that's what forgiveness entails. Paying the debt someone owes you yourself.