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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
No. True forgivness is to forgive all people. Not just those who will follow.
To forgive those that died before Jesus was born would have been the way as well. RegardsDL
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iano Member (Idle past 1940 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
GIA writes: No. True forgivness is to forgive all people. Not just those who will follow. True forgiveness means paying the cost of anothers debt to you - yourself. Every last cent of it. Universal true forgiveness is doing the same thing for all people. If a person is insistant that they want to pay the debt themselves then I see no reason why God should force them to be forgiven.
To forgive those that died before Jesus was born would have been the way as well. ? I didn't know folk couldn't be saved before Christ was born. Indeed, Abraham was credited with righteousness in the OT and is used by Paul as the ilustrative model of NT salvation mechanics Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Jesus said "only through me"
RegardsDL
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iano Member (Idle past 1940 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
So he did. Did he put some time contraints on that?
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Where?
RegardsDL
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iano Member (Idle past 1940 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Anywhere.
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Raphael Member (Idle past 462 days) Posts: 173 From: Southern California, United States Joined: |
Well, if I may interject, Jesus did come to save all. Before His birth and after. If you're saying he couldnt because He wasnt there yet, thats saying He came into existance when He was born which is incorrect.
(John 1:1-In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God, He was with God in the Beginning...) One must conclude that the righteous will be saved, regardless of time period. Like iano said: Abraham was used by Paul as a positive image, and he will definately be saved, for he started the Hebrew race, the Chosen race of God. Raph Edited by Raphael, : No reason given. Truth is still Truth, Weather One or a Thousand People believe it.
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iano Member (Idle past 1940 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
An example of the greatest I AM confounding GreatestIam?
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
How can Jesus be before Mary was born?
RegardsDL
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Raphael Member (Idle past 462 days) Posts: 173 From: Southern California, United States Joined: |
GIA writes: How can Jesus be before Mary was born? Because He is God, and has existed since forever. Truth is still Truth, Weather One or a Thousand People believe it.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
So passing throught Mary was His second trip or His first?
Why would He need Mary in the first or second place? Was there two of Jesus for 9 months? RegardsDL Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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Raphael Member (Idle past 462 days) Posts: 173 From: Southern California, United States Joined: |
GIA said: So passing throught Mary was His second trip or His first?Why would He need Mary in the first or second place? Was there two of Jesus for 9 months? First. He needed Mary to come as a human. No there wasn't two of Jesus. He existed in Heaven before coming to earth in human form. Raph Edited by Raphael, : No reason given. Truth is still Truth, Whether One or a Thousand People believe it.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 273 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Does that mean that the trinity was only twonity for 9 months.
Not to just have fun here but you see the awkwardness of giving Jesus divinity. You have to twist logic to an unrecognizable form. RegardsDL
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Raphael Member (Idle past 462 days) Posts: 173 From: Southern California, United States Joined: |
GIA said: Does that mean that the trinity was only twonity for 9 months. Might've been. I dont know. Raph Edited by Raphael, : No reason given. Edited by Raphael, : No reason given. Truth is still Truth, Whether One or a Thousand People believe it.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Which Came First? God, or human awareness of God?
GIA writes: The same way that GOD was before humans were.
How can Jesus be before Mary was born? GIA writes: The whole point is that we humans don't give Jesus Divinity any more than we give GOD authority! Not to just have fun here but you see the awkwardness of giving Jesus divinity. You have to twist logic to an unrecognizable form. Edited by Phat, : added features! "All that we call human history--money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery--[is] the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy."--C.S.Lewis * * * * * * * * * * “The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.”--General Omar Bradley * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog." -GK Chesterson
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