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jar
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Message 5 of 64 (304283)
04-14-2006 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by truthlover
04-13-2006 11:54 AM


I feel like you have two subjects here.
One deals with whether the Pauline Attribution post Luther accurately reflects what Paul preached, and then jumping to the specifics of the Trinity.
My feeling related to the Trinity is basically no one alive is likely to know the answer, and if GOD really is GOD and not some bling-bling pimp daddy at most he would be amused that folk spent so much time wondering about it.
But on Paul, IMHO he is definitely missrepresented. Part of it is the sheer volume of material attributed to Paul that made it into the Canons. The second is that the way things were incorporated into the Canon makes it easy to quotemine pieces parts. For aesthetic reasons unknown to me, what is really one continuous letter got broken down into individual chapters with the breaks somewhat arbitrary. That leads to things like grabbing one line from a letter the size of Romans and using that one line as a segue into a completely different line of thought.

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jar
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Message 7 of 64 (304290)
04-14-2006 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by truthlover
04-14-2006 5:25 PM


Re: I feel like you have two subjects here.
(What's really funny about the Trinity one is that so many people use the Nicene Creed to defend it, and the Nicene Creed doesn't agree with it!)
Well, as a Creedal Christian I most certainly agree with you on that.
For those who may not be familar with the Nicene Creed, here it is in its entirety.
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 24 of 64 (304684)
04-17-2006 1:28 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by carini
04-17-2006 12:49 AM


No, Christmas is simply an adopted date. Holidays are arbitrary except for the timing of Easter and Pentacost. Those are tied to the Passover.

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