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Author Topic:   A Genesis Day and the Age of the Earth: what does the Bible say?
rueh
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Message 76 of 121 (486046)
10-15-2008 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by johnfolton
10-15-2008 10:27 AM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
johnfulton writes:
Just tell those people that the earths orbit started on day 4 its rotation started on day one
So if the Earth was not orbiting the sun, what exactly kept it from being pulled directly into it? The earth has an eliptic orbit because of the interaction between earths speed and the pull of gravity from the sun. If you are saying that the earth at one time had a synchronous orbit with the sun you should be able to provide a means for earths speed to increase enough to account for our orbit today. Also, GPS satellites do orbit the earth. You can go right here to track their progression. GPS satellite tracking

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rueh
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From: universal city tx
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Message 78 of 121 (486061)
10-15-2008 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by johnfolton
10-15-2008 1:30 PM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
jf writes:
I think you might be onto something that God by causing motion moved the earth and all the planets causing them to fall around the sun
well first off let me start by saying that I am not in any way suggesting that the planets orbits are caused by god. There is no need to insert god into an equation that doesn't need him. The Planets are quite cabable of orbiting the sun due to natural processes, so involving god is nothing but mysticism. We might as well use Syamsu's explanation and say that the planets choose to stay in orbit through a process of freedom.
jf writes:
The size of the moon and the sun the same size in the sky due to distance respective to the size gives us the same size in for the sun and the moon in the sky (firmament).
I am not really sure what you are trying to convey here or how it ties into an antiquated idea of a firmament. In regards to the satellites. You do realize that even with a geosynchronous orbit these satellites are traveling at thousands of miles an hour, based on their distance from earth, correct? And that if they were stationary in comparison to the earth they would plummet to the ground. So if the earth ever had a geosynchronous orbit, it is still traveling at many many thousands of miles per hour and would require an exceptional amount of energy to speed it up to the orbit that we now currently have. This amount of energy would have left a vast amount of evidence. Evidence which is just not there. Again all we are left with is assertations from the creation side and no evidence.
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rueh
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From: universal city tx
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Message 86 of 121 (486147)
10-16-2008 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by johnfolton
10-16-2008 1:54 AM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
Doing a short bible study came across this verse that God is able to bind or loosen the bands of gravity (the scientific principle of string theory in the bible). Since he created the earth no reason it was orbiting the sun until he turned it over to the sun to rule the day it might well be that the sun was not a star until the 4th creation day in that in the New Jerusalem the tree of life will bear fruit yet no light of the sun only the light that the Lord God giveth rev 22:5, etc...
Well John that is what is so great about interpreting the bible. You can interpret it to say what ever you want it to. Eventualy though you have to start dealing with real world facts and evidence. Everyone is more than allowed to live in whatever delusional world they create for themselves, but that doesn't mean that your delusion carries any weight when conversing with others. In other words, it is one thing to make an assertation about your interpretation of the bible, but without any supporting evidence I might as well be conversing with the madman on the buss who talks to himself. Your veiw of our solar system and it's opperation seems to be more in line with those held a thousand years ago. But just out of curiousity how did you get that the lord controls gravity form
revelations 22:5 writes:
There will be no more night, and they will not need any light from lamps or the sun because the Lord God will shine on them. They will rule forever and ever.
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