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Author Topic:   Are there two Christs in the Bible?
John 10:10
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Message 81 of 109 (505674)
04-15-2009 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Peg
03-31-2009 4:22 AM


Re: Two Messiahs
Some seem to miss the "if" in 1 Chron 28:7,
"I will establish his kingdom forever if he resolutely performs My commandments and My ordinances, as is done now."
The Messianic line through Solomon was cut off because many of the kings that followed after Solomon were evil and departed from the ways of the Lord. Therefore, the Messianic line came through Nathan to Mary, fulfilling the prophesy of Gen 3:15,
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel."
Men have seeds, but women have eggs, and God was the Father of Jesus as the Word became flesh (John 1:14), and was not created (Phil 2:5-11).
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Message 88 of 109 (505928)
04-20-2009 8:00 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by jaywill
04-20-2009 7:40 AM


Why do the inventors of "Two Christs" theory not also concoct a theory of "Two or More Yahwehs?" The one and only Christ of the Bible answered this quite clearly in John 5:39-40,
"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have eternal life."
Those who are unwilling to come to this Christ will concoct all kinds of reasons why this Christ is not to be believed, let alone receiving the gift of eternal life He gives to those who are willing to repent of their sins.

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Message 90 of 109 (505957)
04-20-2009 3:03 PM
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04-20-2009 1:05 PM


As Jesus explained in John 5:39-40, the gift of eternal life is found in a Person, not in the Scriptures themselves. The Scriptures are given to us by God for the purpose of leading us to this Person - the Lord Jesus Christ. When sinners are willing to repent and ask the God of the Bible to reveal Himself to them, then they are on their way to enter into God's salvation through the blood of Jesus.
Keep up the great work of presenting the true Christ of the Bible who saves, delivers us from the power of sin, and empowers us with the gift of God's Spirit enabling us to live as we ought to live.
Blessings

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Message 96 of 109 (506290)
04-24-2009 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Perdition
04-22-2009 12:01 PM


When you can find proof that the Bible was written by god outside the Bible saying it was written by god, you might be able to convince me of that. Until then, you're taking the word of a Book that tells you to trust it because it always tells the truth, but the only reason you know it tells the truth is because it tells you it does and you should trust it because it always tells the truth...ad infinitum.
I suggest you read the Gospel of John, paying paticular attention to the words of Jesus. Of course your next reply will be to say,
"How can you prove Jesus actually said these words?"
Jesus says this to those who can hear His voice speaking to them from the words of the Bible,
"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand (John 10:27-28).
If you can't or won't listen to the words of Jesus, maybe you have hardened your heart to the God of the Bible, and the truth of John 6:44 is your condition.
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day."

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John 10:10
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Message 99 of 109 (506329)
04-25-2009 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by bluescat48
04-24-2009 10:57 PM


You are still trying to use the Bible to prove itself. Give us some real evidence.
You still don't get the words of Jesus. The Jews of Jesus' day also asked for a sign from Him.
Matthew 12:38-40
38 When some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet;
40 for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
When one rejects this sign, then don't expect to be able to hear the words of Jesus speaking to you.

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