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jar
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Message 76 of 303 (373222)
12-31-2006 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by John 10:10
12-31-2006 5:28 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
If you are "born again" as Jesus declares in John 3:3-7, you would not be offended that I brought up the subject. Since you seem to be offended, the shoe seems to fit.
More nonsense platitudes. Offended? Only that so many Christians seem to have NO clue what Christianity is all about and so allow empty slogans to replace what Jesus taught.
You are right. Christianity is not the Bible, but it is Christ living within the lives of His "born again" children - "Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Col 1:27).
More crap. Christianity is NOT Christ living it or Christ doing it, it is YOU doing what needs to be done.
Throw the platitudes away.
Christianity is action, doing. Let us walk in the good works God has prepared for us.
Yup, finally. It is you doing.
Throw the platitudes away.
Christianity is YOU doing it.
It is the little things.
It is the unseen things.
It is the unimportant things.
It is just trying to do what is right.
It is not throwing out empty quotes taken out of context. It is not the empty patter of the Televangelist or the brain dead Christian apologist.
It is just doing.
It really is that simple.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 77 of 303 (373239)
12-31-2006 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by jar
12-31-2006 5:45 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
I have a question...
You said:
It is just trying to do what is right
And then you said:
It is just doing.
It really is that simple.
So, is it the trying that qualifies as doing, or just the doing?

If we will not learn to eat the only food that the universe grows ” the only food that any possible universe ever can grow ” then we must starve eternally. (Lewis- The Problem of Pain)

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jar
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Message 78 of 303 (373240)
12-31-2006 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Rob
12-31-2006 7:26 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
So, is it the trying that qualifies as doing, or just the doing?
All we can do is try.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 79 of 303 (373242)
12-31-2006 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by jar
12-31-2006 7:30 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
All we can do is try
So who judges the thoughts and intents of the heart? How do we know when someone is trying, and when they are not?
It's easy to put on a mask, no?

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jar
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Message 80 of 303 (373243)
12-31-2006 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Rob
12-31-2006 7:37 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
So who judges the thoughts and intents of the heart?
Huh? More platitudes and empty worthless rhetoric.
How do we know when someone is trying, and when they are not?
We don't. Only they know.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 81 of 303 (373244)
12-31-2006 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
12-31-2006 7:41 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
Thank you jar

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Rob 
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Message 82 of 303 (373245)
12-31-2006 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by jar
12-31-2006 7:30 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
So when you said:
All we can do is try
Does that mean you want to retract the other things you said?:
More crap. Christianity is NOT Christ living it or Christ doing it, it is YOU doing what needs to be done.
Christianity is action, doing. Let us walk in the good works God has prepared for us.
Yup, finally. It is you doing.
Throw the platitudes away.
Christianity is YOU doing it.
It is the little things.
It is the unseen things.
These contradictions are disturbing jar.
And when you said:
It is the unimportant things.
How can you be a good Christian by doing unimportant things?
You don't think Christ's work is important?
Being raised christian and rejecting it does not make you a Christian. It makes you someone who rejects it.
Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

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Message 83 of 303 (373249)
12-31-2006 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
12-31-2006 7:41 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
We don't. Only they know.
Why don't they just be honest? I mean why would we not believe what they say?

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jar
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Message 84 of 303 (373250)
12-31-2006 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Rob
12-31-2006 7:56 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
All anyone can do is try. It is the little things we can do that count.
How can you be a good Christian by doing unimportant things?
Because that is about all most of us get to do. Life is pretty much a series of unimportant events. We live day by day trying to do what is right at each step.
You don't think Christ's work is important?
Not just unimportant, absurd, useless and ridiculous.
Being raised christian and rejecting it does not make you a Christian. It makes you someone who rejects it.
What does that have to do with the thread? Why are you running off into totally off topic nonsense yet again?
Glad I didn't reject Christianity anyway.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 85 of 303 (373256)
12-31-2006 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by jar
12-31-2006 8:09 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
Because that is about all most of us get to do. Life is pretty much a series of unimportant events. We live day by day trying to do what is right at each step.
Right?
Do you mean those...
unimportant, absurd, useless and ridiculous
...things you mentioned?
But you just said...
All anyone can do is try. It is the little things we can do that count
All of this is in the context of Christians doing the work of Christ, which is the right thing, even if only trying.
Why is it that you get away with responding to my posts with
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And Ringo gets away with asking me questions which assume in them, that I am obsessed or Napoleonic in my delusional state?
But if I say what I am about to say... and that is, that the only thing you needed to say was Blah, blah, blah, blah, because the rest of your post is just redundant and equivocal to Blah, blah, blah, blah, then why do I have to fear being threatened for insulting the intelligence of other posters?
And then you threaten people for being off topic when it is you who have been engaged in this sideshow with John 10:10 for some time.
Who, in the name of the chaotic, incoherent, and isolated hell you are destined for... do you think you are?
Can I give you a hint?
You're absolute!
Edited by scottness, : retraction
Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

If we will not learn to eat the only food that the universe grows ” the only food that any possible universe ever can grow ” then we must starve eternally. (Lewis- The Problem of Pain)

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anastasia
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Message 86 of 303 (373257)
12-31-2006 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Rob
12-31-2006 7:26 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
So, is it the trying that qualifies as doing, or just the doing?
It's gotta be the trying. As you say, none of us is good. But trying to do the right thing is doing the right thing.

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Message 87 of 303 (373259)
12-31-2006 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Rob
12-31-2006 8:57 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
ignore
Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

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Message 88 of 303 (373260)
12-31-2006 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by anastasia
12-31-2006 8:58 PM


Re: Still just platitudes
It's gotta be the trying. As you say, none of us is good. But trying to do the right thing is doing the right thing
Of course... and realizing that we don't, and receiving the savior in good logical and intelligent honesty.
It's the only good thing we can do... be honest and sensible.
But it will get you in trouble, because liars rule the roost!
Edited by scottness, : No reason given.
Edited by scottness, : No reason given.

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Message 89 of 303 (373261)
12-31-2006 9:02 PM
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12-31-2006 8:09 PM


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jar
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Message 90 of 303 (373270)
12-31-2006 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Rob
12-31-2006 8:57 PM


Trying to head towards the subject.
All of this is in the context of Christians doing the work of Christ, which is the right thing, even if only trying.
No one can do the work of Christ. Sorry but trying to do the work of Christ is just more nonsense.
The topic is "Old Laws Still Valid?"
Pointless platitudes like "doing the work of Christ" have nothing to do with the topic beyond being simply meaningless bombast.
If we look at the Laws as laid out in the Bible what we find is that most are simply outdated. Most really are no longer valid.
The idea of stoning someone for working on the Sabbath was even shown to be foolish by no less than Jesus.
Fortunately, morals are relative and are the product of learning. As people learn more they constantly change what is considered moral with the record historically that the trend has been towards a morality that moves closer to the Golden Rule.
Laws on the other hand have little to do with morality and nothing to do with Justice.
Laws are arbitrary and unrelated to the actual conditions of a given incident. Laws need to be constantly reviewed and where possible abolished.
When it comes to the Laws found in the Bible, most of them have been tossed aside Thank God. It is no longer legal to have slaves in most of the world, no longer legal to stone someone for working on the Sabbath, no longer illegal to grow two crops in a field or to eat shrimp.
Who, in the name of the chaotic, incoherent, and isolated hell you are destined for... do you think you are?
Beg pardon?
And please, try to stop misrepresenting what I post by quotemining out of context.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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