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Message 76 of 138 (51216)
08-19-2003 7:21 PM
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08-19-2003 7:08 PM


Re: re;
I think thats a weak explanation, I mean with a government that spends alot of money on institutionalizing evolution everywhere even if a scientist tried to come out with a finding like that, it would never surface into mainstream news. The world does not in some cases want the truth my friend. It is a sad fact.
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Message 77 of 138 (51218)
08-19-2003 7:27 PM
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08-19-2003 7:20 PM


A finding like that would draw stories to arouse naturally. But the main source was not providing a tale or story it was providing a HISTORY not something to be looked at as an interesting story to have parents tell their children at night!
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Message 78 of 138 (51219)
08-19-2003 7:29 PM
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08-19-2003 7:20 PM


Another fact to point out, stories or myths dont come out of nothing. They usually have some fact behind them that was misconstrued in some way. Stories come from facts that people twist into their own legend or myth.
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Message 79 of 138 (51221)
08-19-2003 7:34 PM
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08-19-2003 7:21 PM


I think thats a weak explanation, I mean with a government that spends alot of money on institutionalizing evolution everywhere
With a creationist president? Not likely. You'll have to substantiate this.
even if a scientist tried to come out with a finding like that, it would never surface into mainstream news.
See, you're pretty clueless about the history of science. If you look back almost all of the Nobel Prizes in science are delivered to those who overturned a dominant paradigm. It's not easy, to be sure. But if your theory is better than it comes to be accepted, and you get accolades. It's inevitable. Look at Einstien, Planck, Wagner.
And biologists largely have no emotional investment in the theory. Ask any of the biologists here. If there was a better theory they'd accept it immediately. That's how science works.

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Message 80 of 138 (51222)
08-19-2003 7:34 PM
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08-19-2003 7:21 PM


Re: re;
Do you think Darwin Had it easy? If you think that you Really need to look into things Better. In those Days the Only People where creationist like you. As more People tested and found the evidence it Became what it is Now. If someone Found something now it would spread 100 times as Fast! there is no covering up with science. this is a Free Country(most are) I can get my Discovery to everyone! Heck if I could Disprove evolution I would do it RIGHT now. I bet you believe we never went to the moon either..... sigh
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Message 81 of 138 (51223)
08-19-2003 7:37 PM
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08-19-2003 7:27 PM


But the main source was not providing a tale or story it was providing a HISTORY not something to be looked at as an interesting story to have parents tell their children at night!
So what does it matter what their intentions were? The road to hell is paved with 'em, after all.
No matter their intent, what they made was a collection of local folklore, nothing more. That speaks more about the techniques of historicity in the 1800's than anything else.

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Message 82 of 138 (51224)
08-19-2003 7:39 PM
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08-19-2003 7:29 PM


quote:
Another fact to point out, stories or myths dont come out of nothing. They usually have some fact behind them that was misconstrued in some way. Stories come from facts that people twist into their own legend or myth.
Exactly remember what I said about the Dinosaur Bones?

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Message 83 of 138 (51225)
08-19-2003 7:40 PM
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08-19-2003 7:29 PM


They usually have some fact behind them that was misconstrued in some way. Stories come from facts that people twist into their own legend or myth.
Again, this is true. And DC85 has provided the grain of truth from which stories of giants' bones were based - discoveries of dinosaur fossils before dinosaurs were known to have existed.
What more do you need? You've made our point for us, I think.

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Message 84 of 138 (51232)
08-19-2003 8:43 PM
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08-19-2003 7:34 PM


Re: re;
quote:
Do you think Darwin Had it easy? If you think that you Really need to look into things Better. In those Days the Only People where creationist like you. As more People tested and found the evidence it Became what it is Now. If someone Found something now it would spread 100 times as Fast! there is no covering up with science. this is a Free Country(most are) I can get my Discovery to everyone! Heck if I could Disprove evolution I would do it RIGHT now. I bet you believe we never went to the moon either..... sigh
Why did you capitalize other every word?... And if it were a free country I wouldnt have to learn evolution in my school would I? Just something to think about...... I bet your the most ignorant person in the world for assuming that.
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Message 85 of 138 (51233)
08-19-2003 8:45 PM
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08-19-2003 8:43 PM


Re: re;
Oh yes and I am forced to learn evolution my friend, and accept it as fact by people like you all day long. I'm 14 and go to public school remember.
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Message 86 of 138 (51234)
08-19-2003 9:01 PM
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08-19-2003 7:34 PM


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With a creationist president? Not likely. You'll have to substantiate this.
I dont know what dreamland your living in but just by having a creationist as a president doesnt mean anything. This is a DEMOCRACY!
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And biologists largely have no emotional investment in the theory. Ask any of the biologists here. If there was a better theory they'd accept it immediately. That's how science works.
Actually the ones I know generally resent God and would love to prove creationists wrong, just like many evolutionists on this site.
Also the fact being misconstrued into myth is an example of a dinosaur bone being called one of a giants, but what about the accounts of full skeletons being found? That occurrence does not apply to that.
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Message 87 of 138 (51235)
08-19-2003 9:04 PM
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08-19-2003 8:45 PM


Re: re;
funny the Only time I remember EVER covering Evolution was in Biology in High school and it was a choice to take the class........ you have a choice on which science credits you can take in High school. If you choose Biology thats your Problem. no one is forcing you to learn about it! Whats the Big deal? you can't learn about something? Are you afraid you will Understand it? If you bring up they should Teach creation in School your WRONG. the reason they can't is because there are NO facts at all to back it up. If you want to learn about that there is always religion class(Sunday school). We now are WAY off topic this belongs in another fourm however feel free to respond until the Admin tells us Other wise
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Message 88 of 138 (51237)
08-19-2003 9:15 PM
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08-19-2003 9:04 PM


Re: re;
Actually my sunday school teachers are avid evolutionists... When did you go to highschool? When the theory was first introduced? Ive been learning about evolution for 3 years straight now and I cant stand the garbage, although I listen so I can debate you guys....
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Message 89 of 138 (51238)
08-19-2003 9:17 PM
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08-19-2003 9:04 PM


Re: re;
Oh and no I'm not afraid... lol silly question
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Message 90 of 138 (51239)
08-19-2003 9:18 PM
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08-19-2003 8:45 PM


Oh yes and I am forced to learn evolution my friend, and accept it as fact by people like you all day long. I'm 14 and go to public school remember.
Yeah, being forced to learn the facts sucks, huh?
But lucky for you it's obvious you won't learn any biology anyway, so I guess you're safe from evolution. Like water off a duck's back.

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