So, because there's not slavery anymore, racism is a thing of the past?
I didn't say that or even make allusions to it. First, slavery fell, which was a major shift in the right direction but racism and segregation was still alive and well. Then segregation fell, another great stride in the right direction, but racism was still alive and well. And every year since then, this country grows less and less racist. Racism still exists, Crash, coming from all sides. That's unquestionable. But you seem to
want to believe in a fantasy where whites can do no right, and blacks can do no wrong. This extreme view is completely racist, yet, you try to turn it around on me who has completely denounced racism entirely.
How many times do I have to prove it?
The only thing you've proven is your unwillingness to leave your tower of moral superiority. You are not being reasonable, you are being extreme. Instead of budging on your extreme view, even a little, you'd rather hang on it instead of conceding the obvious. You make blanket statements about both whites and blacks, that in good conscience, you couldn't make unless you were truly extreme.
there's a long way to go before equality. But rather than push towards that future, you'd rather engage in victim-blaming to assuage your guilt.
I think the guilt is all on your side as you seem to want to purge your demons over being born white. I've never met anyone more miserable about the way they were born. Aside from which, I'm not making blanket statements about race, but consequently you are. I've said, NUMEROUS times, that we are dealing with culture, not race. But you refuse to recognize that. You'd rather just despise me than honestly listen to what I've been consistently saying, from the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, "some of your best friends are black." Racists always say that. It's coded language for "I'm about to say something racist, but I don't want to be called out as racist for it."
Then what did I say that was racist following my introduction of Woody, if that's true? He's my friend, Crash. I'm just telling you about my friend and how he'd probably flame you if you insulted him by offering a hand out. That's the point. People of your ilk are more insulting with your extreme patronage, falling all over yourselves to accommodate someone who doesn't need accommodating. He just needs you to get off your knees, stop sniveling all over him and just treat him the same as everyone else. You are trying to offer a special status, whereas I am offering equality.
Who ever said a black man couldn't be a good carpenter
Not you, Crash. They are actually the best. Its those white devils that can't seem to swing the iron.
except you who's absolutely certain that any time you've been passed over for a job for a minority, it's "affirmative action" and not simply you being out-competed in the workforce?
So, because I said affirmative action is wrong you're going to mischaracterize me saying that I think every time I'm passed up for a job, it must be due to AA? I actually have an interview in a few hours. I guess we'll see what we see.
But your stats prove racism. What are you talking about?
No, what are you talking about? The number of white Death Row inmates exceeded those of black inmates. The number of total white prisoners was 2,016 and where black inmates was 1,655, which is completely in proportion to the amount of those on death row. In other words, our justice system isn't going to pander to your specious cry of racism. The justice system take measures to ensure that jurors are impartial by creating a jury of mixed races. We are convicted by our peers, Crash.
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Oh, yes, obviously it couldn't possibly be that the person happened to be white.
Wha...? No, of course they're white. That's what we're talking about, NJ! White people!
You said something about how the media picks white people to do their stories on, which is just so ridiculous, but anyway.... The point is, the media picks interesting and often sensational stories. If the focal point of the sensational story just so happens to be a white person, are you going to accept that? Or is this some diabolical plot to keep black people out of the camera? I mean, really, where do you come up with these fantastic stories?
How many world-renown composers from history can you think of?
How many of them are white? How many of them are black?
Oh wow, yes, yes, that proves racism, can't you see!!! Or it proves that black American culture is not predominantly interested in classical music. Nonetheless,
here you are. Gosh, that's an awfully big list. But even no black composers existed, if you just wanted to talk about pianists, I can name about 10 without thinking very hard about it. Where do you think Jazz comes from? It first synthesized from elements of classical and Ragtime music.
How many classical composers can you think of that are black? How many of them are white? Why do you think we call their music "classic" and not "European"?
For the same reason people didn't call the sky peanut butter-- meaning, this is an asinine question, therefore, you get an asinine reply.
You don't live in those countries, NJ. Do you not even know where you live?
Other people do, and yet you disparage the most accommodating nations on the planet. It was the United States and Great Britain that brought this to a halt, and both countries have continued in that vein ever since. But you don't speak about other countries who would lob off your head at the first squeak to made about injustice. But, no, its America that is perverse and unjust.
Who's a liberal? Who should blame what?
You posted a Wikipedia article entitled, "White Privilege." The "he" I'm referring to is the man quoted in the article.
I'm reading a new book now, and ironically enough, after browsing through the chapters I stumbled onto a page about racism in America and how the left deals with it.
Embarrassed by the defeat of Soviet Communism, leftists changed their language and tactics, putting class hatred on the back burner and turning to racial combat instead... a loudly professed prejudice against white people as the new "Class enemy." The new radical mindset demonized white males specifically and saw them as an ersatz ruling class-- or more accurately-- caste, responsible for every social disparity...
leftists propose themselves as opponents of racism, when in fact their agenda is not about racism at all, but about subverting the status quo. In the absence of real racists in university admissions offices, the left created a myth-- "institutionalized racism"-- that is alleged to explain all disparities in university admissions. The creation of this myth is essential to keep alive the discredited marxist ideal that an alien power separates the citizens of democratic societies into rulers and ruled, the dominant race and the races of the oppressed. Behind the doctrine that all blacks are victims speaks the agenda of sustaining the marxist paradigm and its social war. - Jaime Glasov
"At the time of those struggles, Malcolm X was King's great antagonist in the black community, leading its resistance to the civil rights hope. The black Muslim publicly scorned King's March on Washington as "ridiculous" and predicted its failure... He rejected King's call to non-violence and his goal of an integrated society... Malcolm even denied King's racial authenticity, redefining the term "negro," which was to now mean, "Uncle Tom."...
But what of Elijah Muhammed? What is a racist and religious cultist doing in a monument to Martin Luther King, Jr? It is truly a perverse intrusion. The teaching of Elijah Muhammed mirror the white supremacist doctrines of the southern racists whose rule King fought. According to his teachings, white people were invented six thousand years ago by a mad scientist named Yacub in a failed experiment to dilute the blood of the original human beings, who were black. The result was a morally tainted strain of humanity-- "white devil's"-- who want to devastate the whole world and oppress all other human beings...
King's moral legacy was in large part squandered by those who inherited it after his death. The moral decline of the civil rights leadership is reflected in many episodes of the last quarter century: the embrace of racist demagogues like Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton, and indefensible causes like Tawana bradley, O.J. Simpson, the Los Angeles race riots, etc...
The moral abdication of black civil rights leaders is integrally, (if not fully explained by) their close association with a radical left, whose anti-white hatred are by-product of its anti-Americanism. The left's own attitudes towards blacks are so patronizing that one disillusioned activist was inspired to write a book about them, entitled, "Liberal Racism."
Harvard's prestigious W.E.B. DuBois African American Studies Institute, for example, provided an academic platform for lecturer Noel Ignatiev to launch "Whiteness studies," an academic field promoting the idea that "whiteness" is a "social construct" that is oppressive and must be "abolished."
The magazine "Race Traitor" is the theoretical organ of this academic cult, emblazoned with the motto: "Treason to Whiteness is Loyalty to Humanity." This is hardly a new theme on the left, echoing as it does Susan Sontag's perverse claim that "the white race is the cancer of history." (Sontag eventually expressed regrets about her remark, not because of the racial smear, but out of deference to cancer patients who might feel unjustly slurred.) -David Horowitz
"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell." -C.S. Lewis
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