MartinV writes:
So not stings, but buzz! Would you believe it? You would, you are a darwinist.
What on earth makes you think that the toads associating the buzz with noxiousness is a problem for Darwinists?
What in the theory of evolution does this contradict?
How would a sting being a secondary source of noxiousness make Darwinists be "lost"?
Any advantageous characteristic would be selected for, both in the stinging organism and a mimic.