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Author Topic:   Land Mammal to Whale transition: fossils
Arkansas Banana Boy
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Message 21 of 302 (229551)
08-04-2005 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
08-03-2005 7:27 PM


Whale info
I found some info on whale evolution
http://www.neoucom.edu/...Thewissen/whale_origins/index.html
ABB

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Arkansas Banana Boy
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Message 99 of 302 (229993)
08-05-2005 1:38 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by randman
08-04-2005 11:03 PM


Talkorigin take
As usual, talkorigins has a page on this one for more discussion
CC200.1: Transitional fossil abundance
The issues of small range and low incidence of fossils due to rapid evolution are the likely evolutionist explanation of the absence of your 1000 whales.
ABB

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Arkansas Banana Boy
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Message 104 of 302 (230001)
08-05-2005 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by randman
08-05-2005 1:58 AM


Talkorigin take on whales with an extra helping of references
Here is a more detailed page...
The Origin of Whales and the Power of Independent Evidence
Note in pt. 8 "The biogeographic distribution of fossil whales matches the pattern predicted by evolution: whales are initially found in a rather small geographic area and did not become distributed throughout the world until after they evolved into fully aquatic animals that were no longer tied to the land."
And the conclusion..."Taken together, all of this evidence points to only one conclusion - that whales evolved from terrestrial mammals. We have seen that there are nine independent areas of study that provide evidence that whales share a common ancestor with hoofed mammals. The power of evidence from independent areas of study that support the same conclusion makes refutation by special creation scenarios, personal incredulity, the argument from ignorance, or "intelligent design" scenarious entirely unreasonable. The only plausible scientific conclusion is that whales did evolve from terrestrial mammals. So no matter how much anti-evolutionists rant about how impossible it is for land-dwelling, furry mammals to evolve into fully aquatic whales, the evidence itself shouts them down. This is the power of using mutually reinforcing, independent lines of evidence. I hope that it will become a major weapon to strike down groundless anti-evolutionist objections and to support evolutionary thinking in the general public. This is how real science works, and we must emphasize the process of scientific inference as we point out the conclusions that scientists draw from the evidence - that the concordant predictions from independent fields of scientific study confirm the same pattern of whale ancestry."

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