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jar
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Message 1 of 232 (236283)
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


Well, Pat Robertson has done it again. On todays 700 Club, that refuge for folks that can't keep up with the intellectual challenge of the Teletubbies, good ol' Christian Pat said we should murder the Venezuelan President.
Story Here
Man Patsy and Jerry just can't keep there foot outta their collective a...
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MangyTiger
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Message 2 of 232 (236300)
08-23-2005 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


There was a clip of him saying this (from the 700 Club I suppose but there was no on-screen logo or anything) on the BBC News tonight.
When I lived in the States in the 80s and early 90s I used to laugh at people like Pat Robertson. These days I find them a little scary.
Actually I find them a lot scary

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then

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Message 3 of 232 (236312)
08-24-2005 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


Obviously not Christian, but....
Even though I do not think a preacher has any business in politics, is it not in our best national interests to prevent leftist ideology from infringing South America? God knows how this would affect our already challenged economy. I say that we should quit pretending and just take Saudi Arabia...The U.S. needs oil...period!

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Mammuthus
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Message 4 of 232 (236316)
08-24-2005 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
08-24-2005 2:53 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Hitler used this exact type of justification for the invasion of Poland and France....lebensraum. Do you really hope that the US goes that way? The jingoism, propaganda, and attempts to restrict opinion by claiming anything that does not tow the party line is unpatriotic is inching dangerously close to this form of mentality. I don't know if you realize historically how dangerous the attitude you just displayed has been and how costly in lives.

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Message 5 of 232 (236317)
08-24-2005 3:28 AM
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08-24-2005 3:05 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Not towing the party line isn't just unpatriotic, it's unChristian.
Obviously only Satan worshiping leftists would have a problem with our overthrowing sovern nations to plunder their resourses.
Manifest Destiny doesn't stop at the Pacific.
Jesus wants white Americas to kill all other groups and take their stuff.
Christianity teaches us "Might makes right".

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Brad McFall
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Message 6 of 232 (236333)
08-24-2005 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by MangyTiger
08-23-2005 11:07 PM


In the clip he said, "take out" not 'murder'. There is a problem rather with the word "covert"! If take out means "Chinese" then I have already been "murdered" by US Legislation.
Attention to details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Silent H
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Message 7 of 232 (236334)
08-24-2005 7:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


This isn't nearly as offensive as his suggestion someone blow up the state department, and praying that god will remove justices, but is of course in that line of reasoning.
In the early 90's he stunned his cohosts, and made me laugh like crazy, when he suggested the US take a page from the Russian playbook on how to deal with terrorists. He said they find the terrorist's relatives and chop them up (literally) and drop them on the terrorist's doorstep.
Both cohosts went on to tell him the US is NOT Russia and we shouldn't be doing anything so barbaric. What I can't figure out is how he keeps getting away with such commentary without those around him raising more criticism.

holmes
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Message 8 of 232 (236344)
08-24-2005 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Silent H
08-24-2005 7:24 AM


I agree..for example where's...
Holmes writes:
What I can't figure out is how he keeps getting away with such commentary without those around him raising more criticism.
It is pretty amazing isn't it. Can you imagine the outrage if...say...A Muslim leader said this, or Al Franken, or just about any liberal for that matter?
And on a related note...where's the likes of randman, or Faith, or Tal, or CanadianSteve, or FairWitness to voice their outrage at such a dangerous and stupid comment made by an obviously disturbed Conservative (and one with quite a bit of power and influence within the Republican Party I might add)?

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Message 9 of 232 (236347)
08-24-2005 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by FliesOnly
08-24-2005 8:41 AM


Re: I agree..for example where's...
quote:
where's the likes of randman, or Faith, or Tal, or CanadianSteve, or FairWitness to voice their outrage at such a dangerous and stupid comment made by an obviously disturbed Conservative (and one with quite a bit of power and influence within the Republican Party I might add)?
Unthinking Conservative rule #78:
Always remember that you are part of THE TEAM! You must NEVER criticize any other menber of THE TEAM, no matter how crazy they sound or how immorally or criminaly they behave!
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Chiroptera
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Message 10 of 232 (236357)
08-24-2005 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
08-24-2005 2:53 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
quote:
is it not in our best national interests to prevent leftist ideology from infringing South America?
Well, South America is not ours, it is the South Americans. The South Americans have first dibs on their natural resources to improve their lives. If we were true capitalists we should be willing to pay a fair price for the use of those natural resources; we have no god given right to such a mind-boggling degree of wealth.

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Message 11 of 232 (236363)
08-24-2005 9:43 AM
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08-24-2005 9:27 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Not to mention that Chavaz was elected at least once and survived a recall referendum that if my recall is correct, even the U.S. is not disputing as to the fairness of it. He has survived in spite of the U.S. support of his political opponents and in at least one case that we know of - apparent support of a coup attempt (at the very least, our "recognition" of the junta happened with unseemly speed). More to the topic at hand, it seems that all except for the most ardent Robertson apologists would have to now agree that while Robertson may subscribe to Christianity, many of his pronouncements and business dealings (such as those with the Liberian thug Charles Taylor) are decidedly unChristlike.

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Tal
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Message 12 of 232 (236365)
08-24-2005 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by FliesOnly
08-24-2005 8:41 AM


Re: I agree..for example where's...
And on a related note...where's the likes of randman, or Faith, or Tal, or CanadianSteve, or FairWitness to voice their outrage at such a dangerous and stupid comment made by an obviously disturbed Conservative (and one with quite a bit of power and influence within the Republican Party I might add)?
At least wait until I respond before you words in my mouth.
Pat Robertson = MORON!
He shouldn't use his national TV program (that represents christianity) to support illegal activity period.
Now to Flies.
Thank you for assuming. You know what they say about it.

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Message 13 of 232 (236367)
08-24-2005 9:50 AM
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08-24-2005 9:45 AM


Re: I agree..for example where's...
quote:
Thank you for assuming. You know what they say about it.
That when you have a long interaction with someone it's fair to try and base assumptions on past behaviour?

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Message 14 of 232 (236368)
08-24-2005 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


I really don’t understand why Robertson would make such statements. It flies in the face of a preacher’s mentality and it does not further his cause as a televangelists, (moral ground). He is not part of the State department so why promulgate absurd foreign policy statements like that? OTOH, he has done it before with similar foot-in-mouth comments and it doesn’t seem to hurt his popularity, (or donations). And he is entitled to foment any kind of opinion. We’ve certainly seen similar extreme statements from the far left. That’s what’s great about America, every lunatic can have their say.
Besides, from a strictly monetary standpoint he is correct. It certainly is cheaper to send in covert ops to take out those opposed to the US. And yes, we could have saved billions of $ and thousands of lives if we could have done the same to Hussein. (I think we tried at least once).
But the consequences of adopting that kind of imperialism as routine foreign policy are obvious. You can’t expect to maintain credible relations with our allies by simply taking out all those opposed to the US. (Please, no Bush comparisons in reply)
I don’t know if Robertson was serious about his comments or if it was just rhetoric in response to similar ridiculous statements made by Chavez who said:
If someday they {US}, get the crazy idea of coming to invade us, we’ll make them bite the dust defending the freedom of our land.
Now I don’t think for one minute that Chavez is serious about this statement. It’s just rhetoric. Certainly the administration has not threatened to invade Venezuela nor are they under any sanctions imposed by the US. Chavez is just another dictator who is beating the drums to rally anti-American sentiment among his followers, (subjects).
It seems to me the only thing Robertson accomplishes with these comments is to push the Christian right a little further to the right.

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Tal
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Message 15 of 232 (236372)
08-24-2005 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


Let's see why the liberal left is a laughing stock
Hey jar, I wouldn't be too rash to call the christain right a laughing stock. Most of us are not.
But if you like, I'll lump you in with these fine people.
Breats not bombs! Dicks not death!
Jar, do you have the gonads to show up at that protest?
So careful who you call a laughing stock.

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