The Obama Nation

Matthew 19:21.Yeah, giving to those in need. What a bastard Obama is.You have no problem whatsoever with politicians that enforce through the authority of law some of God's commandments. Why ignore this one?Let the hypocrisy begin!

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Yes, yes, yes, of course. I had forgotten the unplumbed (and probably unplumbable) depths of the ability of a Christian to rationalize away anything that Christ said that they don't like. Beg your pardon.

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Subbie, if you like socialism and communism, i.e. enforced equality aside from the ruling hierarchy tyrants who enrich themselves and who are the only enriched, go for it. Vote for Obama.

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The mere fact that the man is the presumptive democratic presidential nominee would be enough for any rational person to conclude that he wants to do no such thing. The fact that you avoid this conclusion says far more about yourself than it does about Obama.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Quite honestly, I'm hard pressed to imagine how anyone who grew up in this country and has even an inkling of how our government works could begin to believe that Obama would have any chance at all of doing half the things that you seem to think he's going to do. This country is not a dictatorship. The President's actual powers are limited, and just about anything that he can do can be undone by Congress, or by the Supreme Court if it's outside his power.What's more, I'm quite certain that Obama knows this. He'd have to be a blithering idiot to think that he'd be able to do those things as President. And, whatever you think of his politics, you have to admit he's not a blithering idiot.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

No Buz, friend, it's not possible for him to succeed at those things. Not as long as we have paranoid fearmongers protecting our liberty.:sigh:

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Buz, you really are dumber than a box of hammers.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

I really don't think that using capslock boldface is going to convince anyone of what you say.Try throwing in some color, too.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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2. Whether or not I'm correct in believing the cites about his association to terrorists has nothing to do with me making racist statements about Obama. It has nothing watsoever to do with race.

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Interesting defense. You're not a racist because your hatemongering is instead based on religious bigotry.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Rbp, aside from his socialist and communist/Markcist past connections cited, I've addressed his socialistic redistribution ambitions for America.
What would your response be to that?

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Well, my response would be that your link is some blogger's description of what he thinks Obama wants to do. I'd no more rely on that than I would a cdesign proponentist's description of the ToE. In other words, it's no evidence at all.Moreover, you were specifically asked to indicate which of the things that Obama has actually done are socialist, and given a link to a list of things that he's done. If you can't find anything there, the only conclusion that any rational person can come to is that you are nothing but a fearmongering demagogue.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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1. Hitler was very popular in Germany before and after gaining power.

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Obama hasn't been considerably more popular in Germany than any other U.S. politician. and certainly not nearly as popular has Hitler was at his height of popularity.

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2. Hitler was a slick and capable orator who chould appear as all things to all citizens.

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Obama has never once represented himself to be a Heisman Trophy winner, the inventor of shoe lace eyelets, or 7 time Emmy winner Mary Tyler Moore, among countless other things.

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3. Hitler's policies were quite socialistic.

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Well, since you have resisted all attempts to try to find out what you mean by socialism, I shall provide a definition: I'm quite certain Obama hasn't called for the nationalization of any businesses or industries, nor has he called for the abolition of private ownership of property, natural resources, or the means of production of goods. He hasn't suggested that everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it.Lastly, and most importantly, he hasn't called for a National Ice Cream Social Day.

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4. Hitler promised change and the people got change.

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I haven't seen any change yet. What's more, I've explained to you that Obama's ability to work the kinds of changes you are talking about is quite limited.

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5. Hitler was what some refer to as a messiah figure.

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Ok, this one I gotta give you somewhat.I can't tell you the number of times, during various political discussions I've had with people, I've heard the phrase:"President Obama?!? Jesus Christ!!!"Mostly this is followed by a string of invective and racial epithets that I generally don't repeat in mixed company.So, as you can see, you are almost entirely wrong in your baseless comparision, not the mention the hundreds of ways in which Obama is completely different from Hitler that you simply ignore.In closing, may your armpits be infested with the fleas of a thousand camels.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

If you can show me a scriptural reference to diesel fuel, I'll be very impressed.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Running out of gas? Not half. I was worrying about running out of stupid things you've said that I can make fun of, but then I realized what an inexhaustible supply you have, so that put that concern to rest.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

All you have to do is present any evidence that he's done those things.I won't hold my breath. Your track record, evidence wise, shows you seldom have any.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

I bow to the breadth of your ability to imagine. I was unable to conceive of such a possibility.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate