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anglagard

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Message 34 of 171 (477996)
08-10-2008 5:32 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by Jaderis
08-10-2008 2:24 AM

Everyone Who Disagrees is a Socialist

Jaderis writes:

The cries of socialism from the conservatives are really rather amusing because Obama and pretty much every other Democrat in any office in America are so far to the right that they would be called conservatives in most other Western countries (and some non-Western ones too!).

It is obvious to any student of history and politics in the US that those without ideas other than hate and fear must resort to simplistic labels in order to stamp out intelligent debate.

In the early 20s the magic word was anarchist and/or communist.

In the late 40s and early 50s, the magic word was communist. Richard Nixon and Joseph McCarthy used this magic word to great effect.

In the late 70s until even today the magic word is liberal. Ronald Reagan and George Bush used this magic word to great effect.

Now the new magic word is socialist. Those who manipulate their willing audience into a frenzy of hate have evidently felt that the term liberal has been overused and now seek a new magic word to vilify any and all who question their supposed perfection.

Is it really any great surprise? Isn't there a new magic word, atheist, to describe anyone who does not toe the line when it comes to a given cult interpretation of theology? (ABE - upon reflection the older term heretic has been around since there was any religion)

It would be interesting to examine how the magic label word has been used to describe others that Right Wing Authoritarians seek to demonize:

Jew
Commie
Fag
Nigger (and all other racial epithets)
Pinko
Hippie
Intellectual
Elitist
Papist
Humanist
Pacifist
Evolutionist

and so on.

It's all done in the name of hate and fear. The two horns of their false authoritarian god.

Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

Edited by anglagard, : link to RWA, go ahead take the test if you have the guts

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard

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Message 57 of 171 (478799)
08-20-2008 9:15 PM

Reply to: Message 54 by Buzsaw
08-20-2008 8:51 PM

Re: Footnotes

Jaderis writes:

What exactly are the Obama policies which include a "redistribution of wealth to the extent that socialist regimes have gone in the past" especially one equivalent to what we "witnessed in the days of the USSR?"

Just one example will do (and, of course, the explanation as to why it is even remotely comparable to former Soviet policies or even to other far left policies of current countries).

Buzsaw writes:

Soaking the productive rich and the productive middle working class to enrich the poor, the non-productive, and the lazy, i.e. to equalize all citizens, i.e. commune-ism.

In the last 35 years, the tax code has been used to soak the productive middle class and poor to enrich the non-productive, and the lazy, rich (ex. Paris Hilton) i.e. to impoverish most citizens, i.e. banana republic-anism.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard

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Message 74 of 171 (478830)
08-21-2008 3:16 AM

Reply to: Message 63 by Buzsaw
08-20-2008 10:03 PM

Re: Communism/Socialism

Buzsaw writes:

Subbie, friend, no; for sure, Obama is no idiot. Like Hitler, he's a master charismatic minipulator/orator who can present himself as all things to all men. With Palosi and Co, all Obama things are possible to change America from the US of A into the American Socalist Regime. (ASR).

Hate and fear, the two horns of the golden calf.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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