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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
quote: Incorrect. In fact, the exact opposite is true. The mainstream media has given the most negative coverage to Obama. According to the Center for Media and Public Affairs, the break for negative/positive statements for Obama is 72/28 while the negative/positive for McCain is 57/43.
quote: Incorrect. Media Matters has put out a 41-page document of corrections: Unfit for Publication
quote: Incorrect. See the refutation in the publication.
quote: Incorrect. Obama has never been a Muslim.
quote: Then you have a problem as Obama has never been a Muslim. Of course, we have another problem: Why do you care if he is? Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Buzsaw responds to me:
quote: Read: It contradicts what I say. Ergo, it must be "biased."
quote: So? This isn't about what other people think. This is about what Obama thinks. By your logic, all of those Jews who were killed in the Holocaust are now actually Mormon because the Mormons, in practice with their own religion, had them post-humously baptised which means they recognize them as Mormon.
quote: Read: It contradicts me. Ergo, it cannot be true. Nevermind that his first grade teacher says it was for convenience. What does she know? It isn't as if she were with the school that took the information. It isn't like she was with him at six years old. She's just some random person with absolutely no connection to Obama at all, right?
quote: And you know this why? I mean, why should he, his parents, and his teachers know what his religion was?
quote: Except he didn't. But why should we trust him and his teachers? What do they know?
quote: Why? His father was quite lapsed (he ate bacon, for crying out loud) and his mother was at best a spiritualist, not a member of any organized religion.
quote: You realize that you've just contradicted yourself. If he enrolled in a Catholic school, surely he must be a Catholic, right? Oh, you mean there's a difference between the school you go to and your actual religion? Ah, you say, but he said he was a Muslim! Yeah...he was in a country that had just overthrown the communists and had gone into a state of religious overexpression. So, they put his father's religion down, even though he's not that much of a religious person, since that's the common practice. And your proof that he was a Muslim in spite of the statements of his teachers is what, precisely?
quote: So you're saying he's lying? You're saying his teachers are lying? Eveyrbody who is actually attached to Obama is lying about him? Only the people who don't have any actual connection to him are telling the truth? It's all a conspiracy?
quote: No, he wasn't. "Barack" is an Arabic name, not a Muslim one.
quote: Perhaps because it isn't true? Perhaps because there are bigots in the world who can't handle the idea of a non-Christian president?
quote: Incorrect.
quote: Indeed. There are bigots everywhere.
quote: Completely backwards. His stepfather was about as lapsed as you can get.
quote: Huh? What does that have to do with anything?
quote: Whom Obama denounced.
quote: Lots of reasons. The one you've given has no connection to reality. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
quote: Huh? The tax code has soaked the middle and lower classes to enrich the upper class. That's why the income gap has been widening...to its largest since the Great Depression. "Trickle-down" or "supply side" economics...what George Bush, Sr. famously called "voodoo economics" when running against Reagan until he became veep...has never worked. At the time it was suggested, fewer than 12 of the entire 18,000 member American Economic Society thought it was sound fiscal policy. And sure enough, it failed. The economy was in recovery under Carter after the economic collapse of the early 70s under Nixon/Ford. But when Reagan/Bush came in, they got this "cutting taxes raises revenue" hallucination passed and ran up the largest debt the nation had ever seen, more than all previous administrations combined. Here's a good writeup for why the Laffer Curve is bogus: Why Voodoo Economics Don't Work - The Quick and Dirty Version Money flows up, not down. Capitalism is driven primarily by spending, not investment. This doesn't mean you don't encourage investment. It means that you must pay attention to spending more. Giving money to those who don't spend accelerates the process of money flowing up. The market will have the money flow to those companies that have the products people wish to spend their money on. That is what should be the primary driver of investment: Spending. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
quote: ....whoa! "Hitler"? You're comparing Obama to Hitler? Godwin's Law. You automatically lose. You clearly know so little about the Holocaust and even even less about your own argument that you seem to think that Hitler is the best analogy for your argument. And on an even more practical note, if your mind goes to Hitler when thinking of Obama, then there is no possible way to show you wrong. It doesn't matter what evidence is shown to you, you will reject it. Prove us wrong: What would it take? What would it take for you to say that you were wrong? Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Hoot Mon responds to me:
quote: This is going off-topic. If you want to discuss it elsewhere, start a new thread. You didn't read the source, did you? Investment is only secondary. Investing in a business is required, but it is inefficient: If the business fails, that money that was invested didn't contribute to the economy. And that assumes that the investment goes toward the creation of new productivity in the economy rather than in non-production areas. Note, this does not mean that there should be no economic incentives for investment. However, the greater incentive should be on consumers as it is a more efficient means of stimulating the economy. That's why the Bush tax cuts haven't done anything to help the economy but actually made things worse: It didn't go to the people who would consume but rather to the people who would invest. It's why the economic gap between the rich and the poor in this country as become the greatest it has ever been since the Great Depression. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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