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Taz
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From: Zerus
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Message 151 of 171 (571654)
08-01-2010 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Buzsaw
07-31-2010 10:15 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Buzsaw writes:

His extensive czarist regime appointees


Bush had more czars. How do you reconcile that?

Now, two years into his administration, it appears that the trend is positive relative to nearly all of the points which I cited before he was considered by the pundunts able to beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

Like what? The best example you've been able to come up with are the czars, which Bush had more of. In fact, political czars have been in existence for decades now under both democratic and republican presidents.

I find it interesting that you people have only started crying bloody murder about the czars once we have our first black president.

When it quacks like a racist... I mean a duck...


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Chiroptera
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Message 152 of 171 (571662)
08-01-2010 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Buzsaw
07-31-2010 10:15 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
He must move only at the pace he dares, given the watch people in places like the internet and Fox News etc. Were it not for these, he would already be essentially Hugo Chavez in the White House.

Ha! Did I call this, or what?

P.S. All snark aside, Buz, I thought you had been banned. I'm glad to see that you are still around.


To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy
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Buzsaw
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Message 153 of 171 (571900)
08-02-2010 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Taz
08-01-2010 7:07 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Taz writes:

Bush had more czars. How do you reconcile that?

Obama's czars wield a whole lot more power than Bush's did.

Bush's czars were more like aids for less important positions. Compare the lists.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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jar
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Message 154 of 171 (571901)
08-02-2010 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
08-02-2010 10:35 PM


Can Buzsaw Support his assertions
Still waiting for you to provide evidence that the Obama Administration has taken over a private business, natural resources and the production of goods.

While you are at it perhaps you can let us in on when Obama stopped the production of what was to be the worlds most effective strategic bomber and what bomber it was?

How exactly does Israel stabilize the Middle East and why do we need Israel?

Will this just be another example of you providing nothing but editorial, innuendo and nut job baseless assertions?

Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

Edited by jar, : add Israel question


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Taz
Member (Idle past 904 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 155 of 171 (571910)
08-02-2010 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
08-02-2010 10:35 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
*Blink* You did not just say that did you?

You linked us to glen beck's website to prove your point? Out of the whole world of journalism, you couldn't link to a less biased source? You linked to the same man who called those leaked emails on the so-called climategate thing "secret documents"? And I'm still waiting for that apology from you in that thread.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 156 of 171 (571912)
08-02-2010 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
08-02-2010 10:35 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Obama's czars wield a whole lot more power than Bush's did.

Bush's czars were more like aids for less important positions. Compare the lists.

So ... did Bush not have anyone in charge of these things you think are so important? Or is it just that Glen Beck never called them czars?


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Buzsaw
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Message 157 of 171 (571987)
08-03-2010 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Dr Adequate
08-02-2010 11:17 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Dr. Adequate writes:

So ... did Bush not have anyone in charge of these things you think are so important? Or is it just that Glen Beck never called them czars?

Yes he did. They are called either cabinet members, vetted and confirmed by Congress or Congress itself.


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Buzsaw
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Message 158 of 171 (571988)
08-03-2010 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Taz
08-02-2010 11:13 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Taz writes:

You linked us to glen beck's website to prove your point? Out of the whole world of journalism, you couldn't link to a less biased source? You linked to the same man who called those leaked emails on the so-called climategate thing "secret documents"? And I'm still waiting for that apology from you in that thread.

Why don't you get over your own bias and tell us what is erroneous about Beck's link for the purpose of which I cited it?

Why don't you propose a thread and OP on stuff Beck says on his programs which are false. If some of you sheeple would tune in to him more often you might get your own biased thinking enlightened.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Buzsaw
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Message 159 of 171 (571991)
08-03-2010 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by jar
08-02-2010 10:43 PM


Re: Can Buzsaw Support his assertions
jar writes:

Still waiting for you to provide evidence that the Obama Administration has taken over a private business, natural resources and the production of goods.
While you are at it perhaps you can let us in on when Obama stopped the production of what was to be the worlds most effective strategic bomber and what bomber it was?

How exactly does Israel stabilize the Middle East and why do we need Israel?

Whoever owns over 50% owns the company.

The Senate's F22 fighter vote sends Obama a victory.

Let Netanyahu Explain.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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jar
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Posts: 29763
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004
Member Rating: 1.6


Message 160 of 171 (571994)
08-03-2010 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 8:47 AM


Re: Can Buzsaw Support his assertions
So as expected, you have NO facts to support your assertions and once again you are simply spreading falsehoods.

The GM issue is not Obama taking over a company, it is a bankruptcy, a Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.

The Senate voted to cancel the F-22 not Obama and in case you missed it the F-22 is NOT "the worlds most effective strategic bomber".

I asked YOU how Israel stabilizes the Middle East and why we should support Israel. Tell me.

As usual Buz you are zero for three. Just more falsehoods, innuendo and unsupported assertions.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Wounded King
Member (Idle past 1708 days)
Posts: 4149
From: Edinburgh, Scotland
Joined: 04-09-2003


Message 161 of 171 (571996)
08-03-2010 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Taz
08-02-2010 11:13 PM


*Blink* You did not just type that did you?
*Blink* You did not just say that did you?

What ... The ... Hell!?

Own up Taz, are you really a sock puppet for Rrhain? Or is this another NJ/Hyroglyphx thing where you eventually reveal yourself to actually be Ray Martinez?

TTFN,

WK

Edited by Wounded King, : No reason given.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 162 of 171 (572010)
08-03-2010 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 8:02 AM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Yes he did. They are called either cabinet members, vetted and confirmed by Congress or Congress itself.

So does Obama have fewer cabinet members? Which jobs which Bush had done by a cabinet member are now performed by "czars"?

The only one "czar" you've singled out for mention so far is the head of OIRA, which has been run by a "czar" since it was founded in the 1980s.

(Obviously no powers have been transferred from the legislative to the executive branch.)


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Taz
Member (Idle past 904 days)
Posts: 5069
From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


Message 163 of 171 (572041)
08-03-2010 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Wounded King
08-03-2010 9:11 AM


Re: *Blink* You did not just type that did you?
Wounded King writes:

Own up Taz, are you really a sock puppet for Rrhain? Or is this another NJ/Hyroglyphx thing where you eventually reveal yourself to actually be Ray Martinez?


*Blink* You did not just say that did you?

First of all, it's not ray's reaction theme.

I just thought I'd adopt Rrhain's (Rural Rental Housing Association of Indiana) reaction theme. I don't know about you, but it's damn cool!

Edited by Taz, : No reason given.


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Buzsaw
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Message 164 of 171 (572047)
08-03-2010 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Dr Adequate
08-03-2010 9:39 AM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Dr Adequate writes:

So does Obama have fewer cabinet members? Which jobs which Bush had done by a cabinet member are now performed by "czars"?

I said, by cabinet members or left to Congress where some of them belong, both of which are vetted and accountable to the people. Obama's radicals are neither.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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nwr
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Joined: 08-08-2005
Member Rating: 2.6


Message 165 of 171 (572049)
08-03-2010 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 12:26 PM


Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift
Obama's radicals are neither.

I think I am going to have to start referring to Buzsaw as "Percy's radical."
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