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Phat Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Sir. Robin of Rohan writes: Interesting. Lemme think of certain adages that I happen to agree with at this point in time... Is there some basic principle that a good moral code must contain? *ponder, ponder*
So many factors come into play. Robin, I believe that when Jar says to do our best, he is in agreement with most peoples intention. Its just that human nature (in retrospect) rarely lives up to that ideal.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Strongly but Tentatively. I don't see how we can characterize an opinion as both strong and tentative.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But to get back to the main question, is what I have written below part of your moral code?
Part of trying is being interactive with others, not just close friends or relatives, but people in general. If one is not sufficently interactive with people, one has not tried. Also, one ought to volunteer sometimes for beneficial projects. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I volunteer because I believe that I make a difference. I also get something out of it which I may share some day in a belief statement.
I don't advocate that everyone do as I do, however. Each of us relates and interacts with the people around us in our own unique ways.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Sorry, Phat, I meant to ask Jar.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tusko writes: The difference that breaks the analogy for me is that one of your guys offered you something first. In Robin's case nobody did. I don't see that as a difference at all. I don't think the guy even expected me to hear him. I'm certain he didn't expect me to respond.
Maybe your attitude would be "nothing ventured nothing gained, I bet these guys have an interesting story to tell." My attitude would be more like, "there's a fellow human being. The natural thing to do is acknowledge his existence."
... it might transpire that you might inadvertantly upset a vet through said conversation. *shrug* I upset people all the time. It usually doesn't spell the downfall of civilization.
... its still something to think about. I don't think much any more. I have enough thoughts saved up to last twenty years or so.
I just think there are too many unknown variables in the situation described to have anything like a firm opinion about the rightness of Robin's (in)action. Who said I had a "firm opinion"? I said he missed an oppurtunity. I've missed a few myself. When somebody points out a missed oppurtunity to you, the appropriate response is to thank them - not tighten your death-grip on mama's apron-strings.
I wasn't there so I don't really feel confident to comment on anyone's motivation. One of the advantages of getting older is you feel confident to comment on anything.
I don't see why you can't grant me that you don't have any more support for your contention that through his actions Robin did something a little (or a lottle) regrettable. I wasn't aware that I needed evidence in the Coffee House (nor was I aware that I had suggested that I had any evidence). I should think it's bloody obvious: every path not taken is a missed oppurtunity. (I'm baffled by how defensive you guys are about that.) No regrets = no life.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes: "Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, strength..." I know this one is right! And I can never do it! It's easier for people with small hearts and small souls. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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NeuroCycle Inactive Member |
I should think it's bloody obvious: every path not taken is a missed oppurtunity. Take one path you will always miss another.
No regrets = no life If I can learn a leason from something then I don't regret it. I have very few regrets.... does that turn into: Few regrets = littl life ?
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jar said regarding how he holds a particular moral position:
quote: to which robin replied:
I don't see how we can characterize an opinion as both strong and tentative. Well then that is your limitation. As I said, I am not you. I have no control over your limitations. In my reply, the part you neglected to quote, I explained how I do it. Edited by jar, : appalin spallin Edited by jar, : add requisite spalling arrors Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Although you replied to robin, I am assuming you wanted me to answer this post.
quote: I don't see what much of that has to do with morals. Sorry. AbE: If you mean generally doing little things when you can to help folk, then sure, that is a good way to live. Is it moral, I guess so, never thought about assigning a value to it. It is not the kind of think you do because it is moral while not getting the box down is immoral, it is just the right thing to do. If I have a moral code, and I don't spend much time worrying about whether I do or not since I don't think it is really all that important, it is just to try to do what is right in a given situation. It really is as simple as that. Edited by jar, : expand section on moral codes. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NeuroCycle writes: If I can learn a leason from something then I don't regret it. Cute cliche.
I have very few regrets.... does that turn into: Few regrets = littl life ? It could turn into: Young life. Or maybe you should set your sights higher. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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NeuroCycle Inactive Member |
Cute cliche worthless response
It could turn into: Young life. Or maybe you should set your sights higher. Explain how few regrets would lead to any of that? Edited by NeuroCycle, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NeuroCycle writes: Cute cliche worthless response Yes, I meant that your cute cliche was a worthless response.You might as well have said, "A stitch in time saves nine." (I'm trying to be gentle here. Don't make me go upside your head again. )
It could turn into: Young life. Explain how few regrets would lead to any of that? I meant that having few regrets might just mean you're very young and haven't had many oppurtunities to screw up yet. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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NeuroCycle Inactive Member |
Yes, I meant that your cute cliche was a worthless response. You might as well have said, "A stitch in time saves nine." (I'm trying to be gentle here. Don't make me go upside your head again. ) Yes it is a cliche, but that doesn't dampen it's meaning or effect.
I meant that having few regrets might just mean you're very young and haven't had many oppurtunities to screw up yet. Yes I am young, I have screwed up many times in my life (important and unimportant things). All those screw ups have had a reason that I learned from and implied to my life
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NeuroCycle writes: All those screw ups have had a reason that I learned from and implied to my life So you'd repeat all same the screwups again? You claim to learn from your mistakes, yet you don't regret making them.To my mind, that's self-contradictory. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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