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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 1 of 355 (107298)
05-10-2004 11:54 PM


Here is the diagram of the interior passages of the Great Pyramid.
http://www.gizapyramid.com/map20.jpg
It is the claim of this post to say that this passage system perfectly symbolizes the claims of the Bible.
It is the claim of this post that the Great Pyramid corroborates the written claims of scripture. This corroboration confirms the Bible to be true, confirms the greatest proof of God's existence.
The passageways in the Pyramid cannot be altered or changed, this eliminates the criticism that the written record cannot be independantly confirmed.
Isaiah 19:19,20 is the verse of scripture that identifies the Great Pyramid to be God's creation.
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Isaiah 19
19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
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This verse, in the original hebrew contains 30 words. Hebrew letters have numeric value, hence, each word totals the amount of its letters.
When you add up the TOTAL numeric value of each letter in the 30 words it comes to a grand total of 5449.
The Pyramid is exactly 5,449 sacred inches in height from the base to the Summit Platform.
What's a "sacred inch" ?
It is exactly 1/500,000,000 of the Earth's polar diameter. In other words, the distance between the center polar axis north to center polar axis south.
If you split a human hair in half - that is the difference between the British inch and the Sacred inch.
Notice the Isaiah verse says that this altar and pillar stands in the middle and border of Egypt.
Egypt is the only country in the world where you can be in the center of Egypt and at the border. This is so because at the exact location of the Pyramid is the Nile-Delta Quadrant, which is the border of Upper and Lower Egypt AND it is the center of all Egypt.
Refer back to the diagram.
Position 1 and the long descending passage - if you extend that line out into space......
Position 4 represents what are called "scored lines" etched into the roof of the passageway. If you take that line and extend it into space......
According to Royal Astronomer Sir John Herschel; in the 22nd century B.C. the North Star Draconis (Dragon Star) was perfectly aligned to shine its light down the passageway. Also in the same year, the line extended from the scored lines intersected with the principal star in the cluster Pleiades - that star was Alcyone, which is called by God in the Book of Job "sweet influences" (38:31).
These two intersections become an inalterable benchmark in time. The only time that these two stars were lined up as previously described was in 2141 B.C.
This date becomes the starting point of a prophetic chronograph.
What happens when you assign an inch for a year ?
Measure the inches from the scored lines (Position 4) to Position 5, which is where the first ascending passage begins and we arrive at 1453 B.C.
Now we know the exact year of the Exodus out of Egypt. But, originally you could not start ascending upwards because there was a granite plug in the way.
Measure the inches between Position 5 and Position 7 where the Grand Gallery begins and we come to 33 A.D. (remember 1 inch equals 1 year)
Now Let Me Interpret:
Mankind under the influence of Satan/Dragon Star is on a downward path to the pit/hell. But God is sweet and gracious and He intercedes via the Hebrews and Moses Law. This intercession has man escaping the downward direction of the Dragon through Law, which is perfectly symbolized by the first ascending passage of having to stoop under the rigors of law. The granite plug symbolizes that the ascension under law could not begin without the miracle of the Red Sea parting. This ascension under Law ends when the Grand Gallery begins with the death of Christ. The Grand Gallery is the age of the Church and grace.
Man can now walk upright free from Law and its unbending terror.
This is what the Bible teaches. So does the Pyramid.
Notice that the Well Shaft (Position 17) extends from just above the pit to the beginning of the Grand Galley. This symbolizes the Resurrection of Christ, meaning the only thing that can save you from the pit/hell is the grace of God originating from the Grand Gallery of Grace.
This post is just a minute sample of the greatest wonder in the world. Many Egyptologists won't even look at this evidence. They just assume because the Pyramid is in Egypt makes it the creation of Egyptians. Did the Egyptians build the Suez Canal ? Of course not!
Dr. Scott said that he first thought that this was all nonsense - until he looked at the evidence. His scholarship in the subject got noticed by the estate of the greatest Pyramid researcher of all time - James Rutherford, which bequeathed his entire library to Dr. Scott upon the death of Rutherford's wife.
Dr. Scott: There are too many "coincidences", one must conclude at some point that they are not coincidences. The Pyramid is God's witness to this scientific generation who rejects His written word.
Source for this post:
The Great Pyramid Decoded
author: E. Raymond Capt M.A.,A.I.A.,F.S.A.,SCOT

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Message 2 of 355 (107312)
05-11-2004 1:02 AM


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Message 3 of 355 (107316)
05-11-2004 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Cold Foreign Object
05-10-2004 11:54 PM


Cute. Silly. Totally wrong but other than that, just fine.
The Great Pyramid is 5748.0314902 " or 146 meter tall. Even if you add in several thousand (or subtract since the claim of Sacred Inch does not make it clear if it's bigger or smaller) half hairs, it is unlikely to make up over 300 inches.
Giza Complex is nowhere near Thebes which was the divide between the Upper and Lower Kingdoms, Giza is at 29.98 N and Thebes is at 25.71 N

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Message 4 of 355 (107401)
05-11-2004 9:22 AM
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05-10-2004 11:54 PM


Hi,
Now we know the exact year of the Exodus out of Egypt.
The exact year?
How do youy arrive at that date?
Are you sure you shouldnt be talking about 'hares' rather than hairs.
Brian.

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Message 5 of 355 (107406)
05-11-2004 9:40 AM
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05-10-2004 11:54 PM


Perhaps you would start by explaining some of the details of your Biblical interpretation.
Isaiah 19:19 refers to an altar in the midst of Egypt and a pillar at the border. Why do you say that these refer to the same thing ?
The Great Pyramid is neither an altar (especially given Exodus 20:25) nor a pillar. Why do you say that either object is the Great Pyramid ?
Isaiah 19 refers to the future of Egypt from the perspective of Isaiah's time. Why do you assume that the altar and the pillar which will be present "in that day" are the Great Pyramid which already existed centuries before Isaiah ? Surely the implication of Isaiah is that they are not present at the time of writing.
Isaiah 19:18 states:
In that day five cities in the land of Egypt will be speaking the language of Canaan and swearing allegiance to the LORD of hosts; one will be called the City of Destruction
Why is it unreasonable to conclude that it is the people of these five cities who will set up the altar of Isaiah 19:19 ?
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Message 6 of 355 (107414)
05-11-2004 10:21 AM
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05-10-2004 11:54 PM


To me, this seems a somewhat whacky claim.
Surely there is enough in the pyramids to prove it is egyptian made?
If it was an altar why is it a pyramid. I actually think I agree with Paul.
And then there's the logic to consider. B doesn't = A.
The pyramid is "B" ofcourse. If God is "A", firstly - you're assuming A=B, which is a faulty premise. Secondly, you are assuming that an altar is a pyramid, I'm afraid that's just too huge a leap of "interpretation". Even if we assume God made the pyramid it would at best be a "possibility". The pyramid itself is not proof of God. The fabric it's made out of --> is another topic.

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Message 7 of 355 (107495)
05-11-2004 2:32 PM


With the exception of Paulk, every reply thus far is a non sequitor. A reply that has nothing to do with the evidence provided.
Brian: The post explains WHY that date/year is the year of the Exodus.
Interestingly enough, if my memory serves me correctly, Velikovsky came within 7 years.
Mike the Wiz: Wacky ? You bet ! But people like Dr. Scott said the same exact thing, so did David Davidson, who went to Egpyt to prove these claims fake and ended up writing the greatest research demonstrating the claim !
Paulk: I will get back to your post ASAP - thank you.

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Message 8 of 355 (107499)
05-11-2004 2:39 PM
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05-11-2004 1:21 AM


Do you want to know why the metric system is full of shit ?
It is based on increments of the Earth's diameter, whereas the British and Sacred inch are based on the precise increments of the polar axis.
Shove an imaginary pole through the Earth, and the distance from pole to pole can be chopped into 500,000,000 increments.
How did the builders of this Pyramid know this ?
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Message 9 of 355 (107502)
05-11-2004 2:42 PM
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05-11-2004 2:32 PM


HI WT,
The post explains WHY that date/year is the year of the Exodus.
My reply was asking what the exact date was, and how do you arrive at that date?
Maybe I should have been clearer:
How do you know that the 'exact' date of the Exodus given in the pyramid is accurate? What external evidence do you have that confirms the accuracy of the claim you are making?
Velikovsky came within seven years of what?
Brian.

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Message 10 of 355 (107503)
05-11-2004 2:44 PM
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05-11-2004 10:21 AM


Mike: How many months and years have you spent reviewing the evidence of these claims ?
Even as a rank amateur I have spent several years listening to the best scholarship about this Pyramid.
The world at large has been lied to by the most dogma based scientists in the world - Egyptologists.

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Message 11 of 355 (107506)
05-11-2004 2:45 PM
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05-11-2004 2:39 PM


Yes, tell us Cliff.
Coach, pour me another long one.
Edited to change slant from negative to positive.
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Message 12 of 355 (107507)
05-11-2004 2:52 PM
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05-11-2004 2:45 PM


Re: Yes, tell us Cliff.
Well it will need to be a pint because the litre is full of sh*t!
Brian.

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Message 13 of 355 (107511)
05-11-2004 2:56 PM
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The Pyramid says the Exodus happened in 1453 B.C. (the one led by Moses)
Velikovsky, I believe, came within 7 years of that date.
We both know that the Exodus has been widely debated as to when it ocurred. The external evidence, the dates set by people like Velikovsky and others narrow the year within the ballpark. Pyramidologists conclude Giza is correct because of the way it arrives at the date. This in conjunction with other dates cements a case that sides with the Pyramid - do you understand what I am saying ?
I have to suddenly go off line....

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Message 14 of 355 (107514)
05-11-2004 2:59 PM
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05-11-2004 2:52 PM


It will be very hard to convince
someone that turned wrenches based on British Whitworth that the metric system is full of $h1t, but a pint of Dark goes best before the light.

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Message 15 of 355 (107515)
05-11-2004 3:02 PM
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05-11-2004 2:56 PM


How long before that was the pyramid made? What do the egyptologists actually reckon was the date that they were built? Ive heard several theories about being built before the egyptians, using water from the nile, divine inspiration etc etc.
Personally i like Listers explaination, they had whips, big whips.
Unseul

Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life....

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