i don't know those claims coyote.
but if they claim that order came from chaos it would be easy to dispute.
my debate is with the truth and reality of science and our world only.
and the law of existence only proves that intelligent energy existed singularly first and created all that is by faith.
when i read the bible, i read the words in red. and under this law the sayings of Jesus become clear.
anything that is unclear in the bible under this law could potentially be a misinterpretation, or a basic explanation of a greater event with to many holes to bear relevance for me.
i don't dispute God is, because science proves it.
i withhold comment of religion for this reason :
there was only one Christ. and several churches who claim to be the "proper" way to acknowledge his importance and work, ordained from the energy that is/was existence. the various interpretations show that many are possibly right, and possibly wrong, but under observation, all are right, and all are wrong in a sense, because of the imperfection of the human mind attempting to understand a greater force, of which they are unsure how to grasp due to understanding God as supernatural, and above all understanding.
with the law of science, and putting my feet in the shoes of such a creator and attempting to understand motivation of such an energy above almost all understanding, shows that all that is exists only on the faith of the energy that first was.
so then does anything that is a part of it need no doubt to continue to exist within it, because doubt to such an energy would be like poison. because without its faith, nothing can be.
by exploring the words of Jesus and of the bible i determined that man being created by this energy was loved by this energy as an "arm" or an "eye" is loved by man, because all that is came from it. so when Jesus said : if your eye offends the, cut it out, for it is better to loose an eye, than to loose your "souls" (essence of being, existence)
in john 1:1 stating that in the beginning there was God and the Word and they were one shows to me: God the body, and the Word, its consciousness, by this law.
i also determined that "satan" is most probably the very doubt of God by the conversation recorded by job, which would makes sense for an energy that created from itself by faith. i also determined that satan was created by the first lie of man to God, and that God knew it was a lie, but loved his creation man.but now doubted man. and wished to fix it so that he would not loose man, but retain the life of man he created in his own image : ie: having both consciousness, and a body. in Jesus , the cross was where the consciousness of God defeated doubt of man, by having a shield against his true nature between him and man. so we in Christ, and Christ in him, God can retain man.
blind cannot lead the blind, as it were, and the law of existence opens the door to understanding, by understanding the condition in which the energy exists. since all energy is subject to its condition.
now, this is my explanation to you coyote, on my take of religion, by my belief in God, as the law of existence proves to me through true science. that i can find no fault in, and no answer from anyone has been able to show any proof of otherwise, accept by either: admitting they might not exist (silly) or by saying the ordered structure of the universe came from nothing (absurd, because if literally nothing, nothing would be) or by saying that order can be possible on top of absolute disorder without any direction (impossible by all observations).
i didn't come here with any argument of the bible, my argument i with the law of existence, and it proves creation, by science and science laws, which are all relative to the energy that it all cam from. it was the author.
this is my belief, and i wish for the law of existence to be debated for the truth of it, and for what it has shown, but because it is true science. and all true science matches it. and by understanding it, the false sciences will be revealed, and true science will flourish. instead of being stagnated by silly assumptions like chaos theory for subatomic particles, that by its acceptance, has taught many a scientist to continue random attempts in there science that could be alot easier if they were to search for the missing variables to the behavior. because without the search, without asking the "right" questions..science will not be understood.
i expect there be many to disagree with this post, but isn't that why there are debates?
but do not debate this with me, but debate the law which is true to science, because once you understand it, everything else becomes more clear. science, religion, and life.
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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides
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