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Author | Topic: A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives ...by Michael Moore | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Michael Moore | Substack
quote: For those who love to hate Michael, you might want to read the words first. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : changes link to cleaner version we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Hee hee!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3311 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
I love it!
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Fantastic.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3983 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Thanks, RAZD. It's a beautiful thing.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It's the difference between living a democracy and pretending to while pushing totalitarian policies.
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Wepwawet Member (Idle past 6129 days) Posts: 85 From: Texas Joined: |
It's the difference between living a democracy and pretending to while pushing totalitarian policies.
I found it to be a rather condescending gloatfest. But the problem rests with me; I simply can't take Michael Moore seriously enough to take him at his word. He's in no position to make promises in the first place, but if he were he could have made them without implying that the previous government was run by puritanical, war-profiteers. MM can't lose or win gracefully it seems. There was a time when victory speeches were all about what a good race was run by your worthy adversary and the importance of rolling up our sleeves and getting to work. At some point the dems will realize that they will now be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the next two years. Fine, the democrats are going to get their turn at bat...let's see 'em knock a few out of the park before we celebrate. When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data. - Henry Morris, Head of Institute for Creation Research
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
There was a time when victory speeches were all about what a good race was run by your worthy adversary and the importance of rolling up our sleeves and getting to work. Of course, then Republicans came to power, and victory speeches were all about how the nation had narrowly dodged a bullet by not electing the Al-Queda candidates, how it was clearly God's divine will than a Republican won the race, and it was the dawn of an enduring epoch of Republican control of all three branches of government. I actually think this is a refreshing change. I don't see that Michael Moore is under any obligation to win gracefully; he's a private citizen not a public candidate. I think he's showing a lot more restraint than conservative pundits did in the past.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I agree with what crashfrog just said.
However, I do agree with you on one point: Moore may be counting his chickens before they hatch. Let's see what the Democrats actually have up their sleeve. Edited by Chiroptera, : Too many actualy's. Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There was a time when victory speeches were all about what a good race was run by your worthy adversary and the importance of rolling up our sleeves and getting to work. There was a time when there were Worthy Opponents, when the choice was of the better of two great candidates. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But they were puritanical war-profiteers. Their record and angenda speaks for itsself.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Points not already addressed by others.
At some point the dems will realize that they will now be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the next two years. Pardon me if I find this particularly funny. The republicans have been blaming the democrats for everything for so long that when they had the full run of all branches and STILL messed up, they STILL look to blame the democrats.
Fine, the democrats are going to get their turn at bat...let's see 'em knock a few out of the park before we celebrate. The question is whether you will recognize it as a hit or yell foul eh? If they hold the administration responsible for their profligate, war-mongering, uncontrolled and unmanaged overspending, forces them to come to grips with financing their massive mistake ... republicans will howl that the democrats are raising taxes yes? The reality is that the Botch administration has ALREADY raised taxes - AND SPENT IT, they just don't have the GUTS to fess up to it. At some point the republicans will realize that they need to be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the last six years. Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3983 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
RAZD writes: Points not already addressed by others.
wepawawet writes: At some point the dems will realize that they will now be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the next two years. Actually, Bush & Co. remain solely in charge of the Iraq debacle for at least the next two years. Congress has little say in the conduct of foreign policy or wars in progress. Short of simply denying funding (a form of political suicide already foresworn by the Dems), Congress can only recommend, investigate, and mount bully pulpits. This war belongs to Bush--he doesn't get to walk away from that responsibility just because he led his party off the cliff. Drinking when we are not thirsty and making love at any time, madam, is all that distinguishes us from the other animals. -Pierre De Beaumarchais (1732-1799)
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
At some point the dems will realize that they will now be held responsible and get to catch all the blame for the next two years. And at some point the Republicans will be held responsible for the higher taxes caused by the BUSH debt, misuse of resources and spending spree. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Taz Member (Idle past 3311 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
jar writes:
I don't think so. Bush supporters have a hard time understanding that the money they've been using for the enormous tax cuts and spendings were not magic money. The other day I was driving home when I noticed the car in front of me had a sticker that said say no to tax state and federal. These people obviously don't care whether the schools their kids go to have proper equipments or that the roads they drive on don't have chicken holes. In other words, I doubt they even understand there is such thing as the BUSH debt. And at some point the Republicans will be held responsible for the higher taxes caused by the BUSH debt, misuse of resources and spending spree. Place yourself on the map at http://www.frappr.com/evc The thread about this map can be found here.
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