Focus on the Family Will Keep your Kid from Being Gay

Thank goodness. Radical cleric James Dobson reveals sage advice in a recent newsletter on how to keep our kids from being gay, quoting "Dr." Joseph Nicolosi:

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Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

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Wait, what?Why is it that this advice, especially the last part, all sounds so completely homosexual? I mean, if a gay man did with his son what Dobson has just suggested that a straight man do, wouldn't he be the first to call the guy a pedophile?They're just making this stuff up, of course, but this is the best they could do? The best bullshit they could come up with sounds exactly like gay sex play, if it was between adults, and that's supposed to keep a kid from being gay?I'd suggest that FOTF needs to be stopped, but they're clearly too buffoonish to be any threat.

Seriously...Baseball and wrestling will keep your boy straight. (nevermind your daughters)Tears and saliva give you aids.Abstinence only actually works.Nobody masturbates and if you do you will go blind.The government is responsible for keeping sex off of your TV and computer.Really, does anything coming out of the RR suprise you anymore?

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I'm surprised when, being as anti-gay as they are, they advocate extremely gay things. I mean, their advice might as well have been "shopping for drapes and experimenting with different hair and skin products with your son will totally keep him straight. Totally!"Note: Not to suggest that gay men want to shower with little boys. Gay or straight that's borderline creepy.

not to perpuate a bad slang usage of the word, but.dude. that's gay.

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Has it occured to anyone that being gay is not always about gender identity thingy? Just come to my house and see how I act. I drink beer, watch baseball games, play soccer and volleyball with friends, lift weight, always leave my room a complete mess, etc. How the hell is that feminine?I'm attracted to the smell of men, which I cannot help. I like my man to be beer drinking, hairy, broad chested figure. Does this person sound like someone that has a gender identity crisis?And just for the record, I have only dressed up in drag a few times before. I did them to be funny. I absolutely hate to wear women's clothing. And no, I will never shave my legs again. Oh, and one more thing, the next time I see a barbie doll, I'm going to twist off its head (my niece has a whole collection of them) and let my dog chew on the body.

I did it once by accident. In front of my parents. Big, Elizebethan dress.

There seems to be different types; wouldn't you say?There is no doubt the flaming, feminized gay man exists and suggests a possibility of gender identity crisis, or maybe not.What are your honest thoughts as someone more acquainted with the community?

Oh, one more thing - anybody ever notice that Dobson and his ilk only ever have a big hard-on about male homosexuality? Apparently the sexuality of women is so beneath their regard that they don't even bother to consider how to keep your daughter from being a lesbian.Either that, or they secretly like lesbians. Hey, who doesn't?

"Gender identity crisis"?Do you really think you could look down the front of your trousers and mistake that for a vagina? Gay men are gay because they prefer to have sex with men. Not because they think they're womem. How could somebody be confused about that? Even men who opt for sex-reassignment aren't confused - they have absolute clarity that they're actually women in men's bodies.

randman writes:

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There seems to be different types; wouldn't you say?

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Of course! Is that really a surprise? There are different types of athletes too: some play football, some ride bicycles and some shoot things. There are different types of christians: some are very insecure and feel a profound need to control the lives of other people while others are content to simply love their neighbors as they love themselves.Gays are human beings, plain and simple. We're good, we're bad, we're selfish, we're selfless, we give our lives to save other people and we commit murders. We're no different than anyone else; all of us are different and all of us are the same.

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"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

I don't think I like 'em in the same way you and dobson like 'em, crashfrog.

That's not entirely true, crash. Some of these wingnuts had a cow over the lesbian storyline on Ellen a few years ago.More recently, you may know that Tucker Carlson has a new show on MSNBC. One of his regular panelists is Rachel Maddow, and some of the wingnuts on TV News message boards are full of vacuous criticism of her: she looks like a guy, she probably wouldn't have any makeup on at all if the producers didn't require it, that sort of thing.I haven't listened to OxyRush - you know, the junkie with a national right-wing radio show - in years, but unless he's changed he equates feminism with lesbianism. One of his favorite targets is Hillary Clinton. He frequently accuses her of being a closet lesbian.Speaking of right-wing radio, convicted criminal G. Gordon Liddy has (on at least one occassion which I caught) talked about how he thinks lesbianism is "hot", so I guess there is something to your observation.

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"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

berberry:

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We're no different than anyone else; all of us are different and all of us are the same.

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I grew up dirt poor in a large Midwestern family. Jim, born a few days before me into the large dirt poor family across the alley, was my best friend from the age of 4. We did everything together: I loved him more, I think, than one can love a brother.We were both precocious, both naturally athletic: he was a bit faster, I was a bit stronger. He was half Cherokee, half Welsh; I was half Sicilian, with quarters of Welsh and German and, perhaps, according to the dramatic effects of the summer sun and some old family portraits, a whiff of Africa.We played Indians together, never cowboys; we played with the black kids from the ghetto that started the next block over, the only "white" kids in our neighborhood that would. We both adored our mothers and multiple older sisters; we both survived brutal fathers.At 12, I discovered girls and was booted from the Scout troop after skipping the meeting to neck with the Scoutmaster's daughter--a meeting that ended a bit early for my convenience.Not long after that peccadillo, we sat in the woods and talked. Jim told me he had no idea how to go about kissing a girl and didn't want to; in fact, he felt like it would be a lot more fun to kiss a guy...and that he had sometimes felt that way about me, but it looked like I probably didn't feel that way about him."No," I said, "I'm sorry, but I don't" And I was truly sorry. We both thought for the first time we had found something we couldn't share. But, as the years went by, we discovered that we were wrong: I became no less straight, he became no less gay, but we learned we both felt the same way about this incredible voyage of discovery into passion and intimacy, and we learned that the comedies and tragedies of our respective romances were cut from the same human cloth.In my teens I felt a great resentment about my origins, about growing up "poor and disadvantaged." But one day I realized my great good fortune: life had conspired to immunize me against many bigotries--race, gender, sexual preference--not to mention more than a few political illusions. I wouldn't trade that, or that day in the woods with Jim, for all the silver spoons in the world.Tonight you reminded me of both those days, berberry--the day Jim came out to me and the day I recognized the blessing--and I thank you for it.

Thanks again, Omni. I don't know what to say except that that was beautiful. I wish I had had the courage your friend had at such an early age, I might have avoided some of the extreme conflict I had to deal with in my later teens.I had a straight friend with an attitude similar to yours when I was 12, but I didn't realize it at the time. Still, he was the first person I ever came out to, but it was at age 19. He's still one of my best friends.

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"I think younger workers first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." George W. Bush, May 4, 2005

Thats what I mean though. There seems to be this extremely thick layer of pure ignorance that does not allow the RR to see the absolute stupidity of their reasoning sometimes.Its the same thing that we see here all the time. I started trying to talk about it in Why Won't Creationists Learn?...I think it boils down to their overwhelming fixation with stopping gayness that they cannot be bothered with actually thinking about what really might be a "cause" if there even is one. Surely gay people are born out of homes where the dad treats their sons like sissies. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

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